well, I hope I can add some clarity to your mental debate
sometimes you just need to hear it from someone else..
this decision needs to be right...its too much money to get wrong, I know I've done it before and lost ££££££ trying to get out of a bad decision
The first thing......
forget other brands, your heart/head are craving a Patek this much is clear from your posts, even if you may not think yourself it was not this obvious
so which one????
the 5170 is a masterpiece for sure, you would have to be dead not to want one.....thats the problem LOL, we never gonna see them for low money my freind, probably premiums in my opinion
but thats a good thing for you... you can discard this piece, its never gonna be a watch you can truely use every day, its a grail my freind, one that God willing you will achieve one day
so lets be realistic, the Gondolo, (5124 and 5098)even by yor own account is a no go......not luminous or waterproof
so the realistic options are maybe a used 5146? 5167 or the Nautilus
all are wonderful options...
but for me..IF I was to get just ONE watch, the decision would be clear....
for everyday, every circumstance, every situation...on the beach, under a double cuff in a business suit, at a wedding
or even in the middle of the night under the covers
there is an icon, a watch which has passed the passage of time, is of strong design, robust yet streamlined and boasts one of the thinnest cases for a automatic
in a sports watch!
there is only one watch my freind....
do it...you will never regret it, I sold my 3700.....to fund my 5970p, but I promise you...I will one day have another Nautilus (God willing)...
my freind there is only watch you need to fullfill all your dreams..
5711/1a
and then save up for the 5170J!