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I think it all comes down to their vertically integrated manufacture process. They reuse parts from cheaper pieces and make them work on higher end ones to save costs. It's pretty apparent. In the package we received the blue box is clearly from a grand seiko but with Seiko branding. The cushion and all the papers are from their 200-500 dollar lines. The strap makes absolutely no sense in my eyes! Why in the world would you release a dust magnet like this to the public? It is very comfortable though!! The dial and hands and crystal are all grand seiko quality. The finishing on the case is nice, I don't know if it's ziratsu or just machined though. The movement also confuses me! Why do they produce unregulated movements? I think they priced it high knowing a lot of people will resell them on the secondary market so they limit the profits to keep the value up. If they priced it at $2500 and people resell for 5k they just lost out on money so they went in the middle to reap in more cash knowing others will pay more. They are also milking the 2000 LE part. It's actually 4000 since they have a different model number in Japan. Overall this was a very interesting watch at Baselworld but when you dissect the information it's hard to really love it and hard to really blame it for the price! I think for all the owners it's that internal feeling of "man this watch is so nice and different but damn did I get ripped off here price wise"!
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SLA has arrived
I read a lot about the SLA017 since it\'s announcement and knew I had to have one. Finally got my hands on one without ever seeing it and have some initial impressions. All over the forums people said it\'s not worth $3400 MSRP. I did not agree then but n...
A very honest review
I do like this but I agree it's quite pricey. I hope you continue to enjoy it in spite of its failings (especially a wobbly crown) A really nice design though All the best Tim
Whoww
.. that review was honest and brutal at the same time. That's what i love in a review.
Thanks for the review
It's refreshing to have a cautionary reminder about buying Swatch unseen. Pity you're disappointed with some aspects of it. If you'd seen one in a shop & it was like yours would you have bought it? Hopefully it'll grow more on you in time Cheers JML
That's a good question
The thing is I have owned many many watches from across all the Swiss brands and I feel seiko makes some great bang for buck divers that can compete against the Swiss fairly easily. Would I still have purchased it if I saw and tried it on before hand? The...
That's good to hear
That despite the issues & even knowing them in advance you'd have still bought it. Enjoy your watch & hopefully you won't have to wind it too often & suffer the wobbly crown. Cheers JML
That is a well thought out and honest review.
It really is hard to come to grasps with the discrepancy in the perceived value vs expected value at 3800 vs 700 for the watch you referenced. Below the original big crown and small crown from 1966 / 1967 ...
Indeed it is tough
I look at it like this. The SBDC051 has a bracelet that looks ok but still feels semi cheap. The SLA017 should by default be of higher quality. Nope the bracelet is pretty much the same and one cost 3400 vs 700 Give or take. Same thing with the crown. On ...
Congrats, it's a keeper
I read about your personal candid take of this model vs. the other Seiko models and found it to be interesting. As someone who's just into recent foray of both Grand Seiko and Seiko, I was prepared to accept certain differences between these two brands in...
100%
I am with you on the fact that this is a near 1:1 reissue. This is how any brand that considers doing a reissue should approach it! I am wearing it now and loving it. It's different and it really does have a dial/hand marker quality of a GS. It plays with...
Sounds good
I wish to share that I also own the GS253, another reissue and am perfectly happy even if it is an upsize version (again love it on my wrist) and if the dial is missing the word "Chronometer" and a "*" at both 12 and 6 o'clock. I'm loving this watch despi...
Great review
I recently acquired this watch and agree with your review. It is well overpriced, the box, rubber strap and bracelet feel and look cheap but the dial, crystal and markers are great. I still like this watch very much but feel Seiko will never ever really m...
Yup
I think it all comes down to their vertically integrated manufacture process. They reuse parts from cheaper pieces and make them work on higher end ones to save costs. It's pretty apparent. In the package we received the blue box is clearly from a grand s...
Ha ha! That made me laugh!
''man this watch is so nice and different but damn did I get ripped off here price wise"! Very true, I do enjoy the watch and will no doubt keep it but yes I do feel ripped off price wise. I read on another forum that this was is both a $10k and $300 watc...
Haha
Yes indeed! Now I have had a chance to wear this watch for days and my opinion is slowly evolving from the initial impressions. The box and bracelet are put away never to be touched unless years dow the road I decide to sell this! The accuracy has been +8...
One other thing..
Every time I look at my wrist I get a happy feeling. That happiness also has a value associated far greater than $$$! So Seiko definitely did something right here.
Let's hope Seiko is listening and takes notes about the opinions expressed here
I have heard the same thing repeated in person and expressed privately via emails. The watch is great but multiple things detract from its appeal, especially the presentation. They have just about sold out, so you could argue "so what if a few things feel...
Let's hope so...
...but I feel Seiko firmly see themselves in 'the watch business' rather than 'the luxury business' and hence their somewhat workmanlike approach.
Interesting perspective and comments. Allow me to share mine as well after some time has passed.
My watch is #18XX, purchased from and delivered to me straight from the Miami boutique. After a little over two months (I think) of ownership and being worn approx. 75% of that time, here are my notes/impressions: I too have noticed a wiggle in the tip of...
Great write up
I also have that strange little raised paint looking imperfection on the pip! Looks like ours were made by the same person! I will continue to wear it all weekend but really am enjoying it. The best is no one knows what it is and it's not flashy yet eye c...
Hahaha... well at least we know they're made by hand then???
Yeah, this watch is a bit of a conundrum. Despite its flaws, the whole is greater than its parts. Maybe that's where the genius lies..? What can I say... I just... like it. And $3400 (okay, plus tax) be damned!
Well, putting aside the fact that we're not supposed to be talking about price on this site, I feel compelled to provide a counterpoint to this review
I think the SLA 017 is a winner. Build quality IMO is very nice, especially the case polishing and depth/beauty of the dial. Most of all it feels so sweet on the wrist and really evoke the cool of a 60s era dive watch. All that said, I do agree that the b...
Well a few things here.
I also agree that this SLA is a winner. I too felt it was the best watch announced at this years baselworld and I also love mine. What I don't fully agree with and it's just an opinion of course are two things. One is price. I feel as that price is the bi...