Vacheron Constantin

Dear friends, I am considering to treat myself to a dress watch and have tried several of them including PP 5196 After months of deliberation, I have finally narrowed it down to Lange Saxonia thin 37 mm and VC tradionalle small second. I have read numerou...  

IMO Lange is more ascetic )) WBR Serge

Best wishes Alkiro

Thank you all for chiming in. VC is indeed my choice of the moment but just can\'t stop admiring the simplicity of Lange not to mention the gorgeous movement!

Regarding watches, think with your heart and not your brain Best wishes Alkiro

Warmer and is a little less cold. The movements are different but no less beautiful between the two, just very different characters.

They are both beautiful moments. I think I am close to making a decision soon...

For all the reasons mentioned by others, especially like the seconds hand - plain yet that touch of "complication."

I had a VC 82172 in rose gold, but traded it away. I missed it so badly, that I got another one, but this time in white gold. The VC is more striking. There are other watches that do simplicity as well as the Lange, but I don't really see anything else qu... 

Also love the platinum with grey dial. Though my main reason for the rose gold is to add some metal diversification to my current collection.

There is a manual , RG Saxonia in 35 mm even. an automat in 37 mm too. However, the Saxonia thin in 37 mm has got a 72 h pr movement, which is quite something and I can see why you favour it over the VC.

So 37m is the perfect size for me. The 72 days power reserve is certain a draw

I have both and they are my favorite dress watches due to the dimensions and the movement which is hard to better from a technical perspective. Search for Kari Voutilainen\'s view on it. Lange is nice, but not as complete as the VC. All the best, Alex

My brain says one of the two

I found the review on the movement - great insight. Thanks.

I think it\'s important to look globally what makes a good movement, beyond materials used or generic statements about brands. The 4400 is a stellar mechanical movement, in a true horological sense. All the very best, Alex

that the Saxonia is a better choice. If you want a matching VC I would choose Patrimony. Those two watches are two different leagues in my opinion. Happy choosing, at the end go with what your heart tells you Modest Collector. Best Regards Edward

But if an 1815 is in the running... =) J

...it is in my dream list

They can be stately; quirky; always handsome. But with the "Thin" Lange indeed has made an elegant dress watch. I would think this would never be worn except in formal settings. You cannot go wrong with it.

Hi MC, Of course you have to pick one you actually want to gaze and muse upon first. For the me the Deco Diva wins it on looks by a mile, but aesthetics aside..... ..... flip it over and I think the VC demonstrates more finishes and particularly 3 perhaps... 

Baxter

because it is sooooo incredibly beautiful and elegant. On the wrist it was fab, the coined back edge was a subtle design mastestroke....now for the Jeremy Clarkson bit,,,,but I didn't keep it becuse I found the winding crown too small for comfort. Yeah, I... 

The one gripe I have on this otherwise perfect watch is that it is a PITA to wind. Maybe that\'s the price to be paid for having a 60hr power reserve on a single barrel in such a thin watch. I actually get a full 72 hours. Not bad. But yeah it hurts my fi... 

.... but at some cost in accuracy beyond the 60 hrs

one cannot help but ask if anyone actually used it as it was intended....or just designed it. So many objects seem to be designed by people who either don't use them or think the visuals are more important than the practicals. )

Funny enough, the sales person did casually suggest that I treat it with care and not to over wind it as he has seen a few cases of broken spring. That left me wonder a bit on the durability of the watch. But the Kari review gave me the final comfort.

because it's a single barrel with a long long spring. As you wind it the tension level goes from modest to quite high - perhaps moreso than a traditional manual wind with a shorter power reserve. I think one can more likely not wind it enough because of t... 

If you’ve already contemplated them and dismissed them, then what about this particular AL&S? –

Thanks for sharing. It is indeed a very nice Lange. I admire Moser but have found the shape of the case a tad too round and too big for me.

I too have thought long and hard about his as am a dress watch kind of guy. If money was no object I would go for VC in platinum ... only critique is that the caliber is a bit old ... however, the Lange in while gold is great value. Either way, you should... 

is more softer and elegant to my taste. The VC is just too stark. I would tire of it quickly.

the subsidiary seconds on the VC is too small for the dial ala the 5196 issues. This throws the whole look out of balance.

While the size of the subdial is a bit small, it is very prominent visually, maybe a little bit too much. But the overall look is more than acceptable to me.

The guilloche dial on the boutique edition is my favorite. Other ALS are nice, but the choice we have here is going to be a bore over time.

But price disparity is too wide to justify given there is no discount on the boutique edition

I just pulled the trigger and collected my VC an hour ago. Thank you everyone for your valuable comments. This is my first VC and hope there will be a few more to come. Though this is not a new model, I do feel that VC is doing something interesting latel...  

To you first and foremost Modest Collector as well as to the PuristS with whom you have consulted your decision. Best Regards Edward

Great choice, looks fantastic and am sure you won\'t get bored!

... how you find the hand-wind experience?

I would have choosen VC also , actually that's what I did too ! Mine says hi ! Enjoy yours and wear it in good health ! Mike ...  

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This IS Vacheron constantin! Congrats and wear it in the best of health! J

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I tried it out at the VC boutique yesterday and find it really nice. ...