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Dials dials dials!

 
 By: patrick_y : July 4th, 2013-19:32
Thank you for the pics!  

Really like the one with the watch dials.  That'd be a nice work of art in any collector's home.  

Bravo Dean!

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 7th, 2013-05:16
Love your photos and report! Thoroughly enjoyed reading your post.
Now you have me thinking about mb villeret again. ....

Arghhh! smile

Cheers
Robin Wong

It's not going to cure itself!

 
 By: patrick_y : July 8th, 2013-09:33

A great watch from an even more impressive factory.  

But of course, you already knew that!  

Thank you, thank you!

 
 By: AlexSunrise : July 10th, 2013-14:40
It is great to see the human side of the Manufacturers. If it weren't  for all those smiling faces, and the willingness of the people that carry them, the industry, and our hobby would be so dull and cold. 

Your report is wonderful and showcases just how much pride and effort goes into creating these tiny marvels that fascinate us so much. 

Thank you for sharing the joy,

Cheers,

Alex

Well said Alex! [nt]

 
 By: patrick_y : July 10th, 2013-15:00
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Thanks for the report however I have one comment/argument for Mr. Cabbidu

 
 By: mkt33 : July 11th, 2013-18:46

I completely respect his achievements and I also admire his answer:

 “We make watches for humans”, he recalled telling the frustrated client.  “Machines can give you perfect angles and finishes, but people give character and nuance to their work.  No, it’s not perfect, it’s for humans!” 

However, my argument would be if Montblanc prices their watches for perfection, then is it the fault of the customer to expect perfection? 

Sure the watches are made for humans....but how many "normal" humans or "normal" watch enthusiasts could ever afford a Villeret?  So when you filter out 99% of the population shouldn't MB expect the remaining 1% to be extremely critical and demanding?

Just food for thought...

Mike

This message has been edited by mkt33 on 2013-07-11 18:57:29

I agree with you Mike but....

 
 By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : July 12th, 2013-05:57
I agree with you not just for MB villeret but for every single timepiece at those prices regardless of their brands.

Somehow I feel I (speaking for myself) tend to be more critical of MB and more easily satisfied with my patek or lange (I am likely a victim of branding and herd instincts. ..)

Cheers
Robin

Hi Robin, yes my comment/argument can be applied to most of the H/H

 
 By: mkt33 : July 14th, 2013-03:42
brands today.  But specifically to Montblanc and any new manufacture trying to gain foothold in the Haute Horologerie market the argument should be that much more important.

You are more critical of MB and more easily satisfied with your Patek or Lange partly because of marketing but probably more of horological history and collectors opinion....Montblanc has history and respect in the luxury world but they have to push ...I believe it is harder to earn the same reputation in the watch market (more expensive, more parts to the final product so their aftersales service has to be top notch)

You represent the type of customer MB Villeret has to win over...that is why I understand Mr. Cabiddu's frustration but I also see the otherside.

Price it like a Patek and Patek fans will make you PROVE that your product is superior..not in your mind but in theirs.

Best, Mike


Are you more critical of Montblanc than you are of Patek because of...?

 
 By: patrick_y : July 16th, 2013-15:05
Are you more critical of Montblanc Villeret watches than that of Patek Philippe for the reasons why mkt33 mentioned (1) Montblanc is less acknowledge and established than Patek Philippe/Lange because they're new versus Patek Philippe who is an incumbent, or (2) because you believe Montblanc Villeret is a higher quality product and then have higher expectations since it's a higher quality product?  

I have a higher expectation for Montblanc Villeret watches, even though sometimes the equivalent Patek Philippe may cost even more (cost usually correlates to expectations) because I feel that Montblanc Villeret products are a higher level than most Patek Philippes and I expect more from the Villeret team than Patek Philippe.  

Just wondering.
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