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Brembos have one of the most rigid brake calipers on the market. The rigid structure helps with the pedal feel. They have a "Fixed" design which offers superior pedal feel over the "sliding design" that is employed on most vehicles, including those by the major manufactures such BMW and Mercedes-Benz. BMW just started to offer fixed calipers on the BMW M5 and the 135i coupe, but predominantly uses sliding. Mercedes-Benz currently uses the fixed calipers on their CLS, SL, S, CL (only coupe and sedan models considered) and most AMG models with the exception of the S63, S65, CL 63, CL 65 models which have Dual-sliding calipers on the front brakes and fixed calipers on the rears.
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Which Purist has the cleanest car? How do you keep it that way?
How do you keep the car clean? If you're a do-it-yourselfer, what products do you use?
I have a thing against machine washing the car, and I also don't entrust the car to the car wash boys at the office. Running the car to the dealer for a detail takes too much time and I'm not especially impressed with the results. So I've resorted to doing it myself.
Over the years, I've used multiple products to clean and wax the car.
I first started with Zymol brand products; the expensive and luxurious choice. The cleaning solution was very effective and prepared the paintwork very effectively. I found the wax gave the most brilliant shine of all the products that I have used both in the past and even currently. However, I stopped using Zymol products because I found the wax time-consuming to apply, among the most difficult and time-consuming to remove, and created lots of white powder and had a relatively short lifespan. I would definitely use this for a concours competition, but not for the daily driver.
I then tried Meguiars brand; the domestic choice. The cleaning fluid is heavily scented. There are a plethora of different products available. The wax is easy to apply and easy to remove, very little powder. The car looked very good and was well protected, but other products seem to make the paint look glossier and the lifespan of the shine only seemed to be a few weeks.
I eventually returned to Zymol products, until I discovered Einszett or 1-Z, a German manufacturer of partially synthetic waxes. The "Einszett Perls Shampoo" cleaning fluid is a detergent-free solution that changes the Ph-balance of the water to act as more of a lubricant for dirt and grime removal. It doesn't cut through grease, but it is perfect for well-maintained and frequently washed vehicles. The wax is partially synthetic and is easy to apply and remove with little powdering, and more importantly the Einszett wax seems to have an increased lifespan. The car looks very glossy, but there can be a little bit of a hazy residue on hoods that seem to disappear quickly.
I've been using Einszett products for nearly five years and I have to say I'm very pleased with the results.
Please share what you use along with your comments.
Not me. Definitely not. ;)...
Not me. Definitely not. ;)
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Your car could be clean if...
Your car always has a fine layer of rubbery dust on it, from all the tire burnouts at Place Vendome...
In Paris, it is a challenge to keep you car clean, my friend. A real challenge! [nt]
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Carwash
Car-wash is the best way to keep your car 95 % clean, no more scratches due to a new generation of brushes. I thnik it is the best way to clean your car when it is very very dirty. I take each one of my vehicles to the carwash every two months, i think Vlad evert two years LOL.
Handwashing the car is easy when it is a little Clio, so that one gets the treat every week, i know Meguiaras isnt really the best, far from but i simply use good products i can find in local shops. Polishing a car is not or me, too much work 
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.I do try to pay attention to the wheels, whenever they look a bit black due to brake dust i get my special wheelcleaner and clean them thoroughly. I bought a two year old Renault for my wife with 75k miles on the clock and i think they had never cleaned the wheels. Niw it is virtually impossible to clean them perfectly, black spots burnt in everywhere.
Filip
New brushes you say?
Thank you for your input Filip!
Please remind Vlad to wash his car more often...
So, the Clio is the pampered car. Washed every week.
I know the feeling about the wheels...
Speaking about brake-dust, I just wanted to mention, I really like the Brembos on your Clio!
BREMBO
Speaking about Brembo, they are fitted on most Italian bikes and on Renaultsport cars ... on the little Clio they're just superb, the feeling is right, very sharp and yet so controllable, very powerful and it appears it's difficult to experience fading (unless you do stupid things off course) ... i love my Brembo's, without them that little Clio would have been crashed already .
filip
... on the little Clio they're just superb, the feeling is right, very sharp and yet so controllable, very powerful and it appears it's difficult to experience fading (unless you do stupid things off course) ... i love my Brembo's, without them that little Clio would have been crashed already .filip
So why are Brembo's so good...?
Would they be a worthwhile upgrade to any regular car, or just for fast sports cars..? They always look good
Andy.
What makes them special...
It's the feel, it's the performance, and it's the increased braking capacity.
In sliding calipers, the pistons (which are the devices that push the brake pad in contact with the brake disc) are all on one side, and braking first starts at one side of the disc until contact is made before the other side has contact. Imagine grabbing something with your thumb first and then using the rest of your hand.
In fixed calipers, there has to be at least a piston on both sides of the brake disc, and when the brakes are actuated, the contact of the brake pads are applied to the discs from both sides of the discs simultaneously. This allows for easier modulation, greater precision, and quicker response to the driver's braking inputs.
Thanks for that very comprehensive reply....
that makes a lot of sense and explains why they are so good.
They also look amazing..!!
Thanks,
Andy.
They also look amazing..!!
Thanks,
Andy.
It's the big honkin' disc and pad!...
The larger the pad and disc, the better braking (plus all the stuff Patrick said )
)Better cooling design too
Makes perfect sense ...
.... a bit like bike brakes .... which have seriously evolved also these past years ... I remember having floating disks on my Bimota, now floating disks are long time gone, radial brakes are the business now which i think Brembo came as first with .
.Bim
Don't know the technical aspects ..
... but i guess they're just built with smaller tolerances and better materials ... .
Fitting them to any regular car is a bit too much as new brakes and calipers are always very expensive. There are a lot of other brands like AP that offer brake-kits but i think you should change wheels and suspension before you start investing in new brakes ... .
Ze Bim
True...
to be fair it stops on a sixpence anyway so brakes are the least of any problems - the Brembo's just look so good..!! Red calipers would look so good on a black car
Me.
Me.
Andy you would do very well with EBC greenstuff pads
there's no need to change the discs if they are good, but get a set of EBC's. greenstuff for under 200 bhp and redstuff for over 200 bhp. they give of very little brake dust, use a compound that enables better braking in both the wet and dry without any fade. Brembo's are better, but there is a limit to the money you want to spend. i've had EBC's on several cars and they are great for hard progressive braking.
however, i wouldnt advise you bother changing until they need changing. BMW use a good quality brake pad in keeping with the type of car you have.
G
Cheers Dude...
at the moment she stops on a sixpence so like you say the brakes are already good for a BMW but when they are due for a change I'll bear this in mind...it could be a while yet though..!!
Speak soon big boy,
Me.
Speak soon big boy,
Me.
I'm afraid...
..that when it comes to cleaning cars, I tend to take after the late Alan Clark MP...
I'm afraid...
I'm afraid my knowledge of English history is limited. All I know is that Alan Clark was a very Conservative British politician.
Did he say something about washing cars are not worth doing?
He was...
...infamous for driving desirable cars (SS100s, DS23 Decapotable, Silver Ghost, 6.5 Bentley, etc etc) and not washing them (nor did he maintain them very well, something I don't agree with...)
Personally, I only wash the car when it really needs it. Bucket of water and some whatever car-wash is in the cupboard. Then a wipe down with a proper chamois...car usually lives under a soft cover, so it doesn't get that dusty.
Ahhh, your philosophy is to not get it dirty in the first place!
A good philosophy to live by too.
Not really.
I'm not much of a clean-freak. It gets put away dirty most of the time. In fact it usually only gets washed when a bird has crapped on it road grime doesn't worry me.
The dust cover just means the top can stay down and the interior doesn't fill with dust...the garage it lives in isn't the cleanest place.
Washed once a year, if necessary or not. [nt]
This message has been edited by DonCorson on 2012-04-04 04:05:09
