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This message has been edited by TheCollector1688 on 2016-01-04 08:47:53
and the first watch has been delivered end 2012 to somebody who ordrered only one piece
but I backed up on the last minute. I used the funds to buy some other pieces.
Why: I must say that 5711P is a wonderful watch and has really massive "wrist presence". The dial is also stunning - I like it much more than the one of 5711/1A. However, for me Nautilus is a sporting watch and platinum is not really the right material for that.
It always bring into my mind a story my father told:
After WWII, Finland had to pay war compensations to Soviet Union. Sure, a nation of 3.2 million attacked a nation of 240 million. But that's another story. Anyhow, the Finnish yards needed to built a big commercial fleet for the Soviets - a huge amount of world's best merchant ships. The Soviets wanted to get two saunas to each of the vessels - one for Captain and one for the rest of the crew.
When the first of the vessels were under the final inspection before the delivery, the Soviets started to scream! They said that the seat in the sauna were made of cheap material - wood containing no tar. The Russians demanded "at least" copper sets!
Finns accepted with pleasure and we are still giggling how the Russians burned their asses.
The moral of the story is that copper is more noble than wood but for sure not in the sauna. Same applies with platinum; for me it's the ultimate material but not for a sporting watch.
Just imagine the first Soviet who sat to the copper plates when the temperature in the sauna was designed to be around 100 degrees. That memes me happy even everything happened 70 years ago.
Best, Kari
Patek 5711P with Tiffany Logo
Patek 5711P with Tiffany logo
This message has been edited by TheCollector1688 on 2016-01-04 08:47:53
Beautiful piece that proves there are two Americas even for PP collectors as.... ;-)
I have been trying to get one for two years without any positive response from my AD's.
Congratulations on an even rarer T&Co piece. Bravo!
Hi doublesix, what is the history behind this rarity? How many were made? Thanks! [nt]
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I'm not sure about the real story on the 5711P but here is what I was told by my AD:
He inquired with Henri Stern about getting me this watch and was told that the 5711P was originally made in a small batch of unknown numbers for a Buyer who did not take delivery of the entire custom order. The pieces that remain were then sold. To see a T&Co brand on this seems even more rare to me if the story I have is true. Does anyone know the real story?
you mean you want to know the 5711P story or the 5711P T&Co story [nt]
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both stories. not sure if my story is real. The T&Co. 5711P is like a myth handed down for generations....;-) [nt]
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the idea of the 5711P provided from Thierry Stern
and the first watch has been delivered end 2012 to somebody who ordrered only one piece
I nearly bought one from "my" AD
but I backed up on the last minute. I used the funds to buy some other pieces.
Why: I must say that 5711P is a wonderful watch and has really massive "wrist presence". The dial is also stunning - I like it much more than the one of 5711/1A. However, for me Nautilus is a sporting watch and platinum is not really the right material for that.
It always bring into my mind a story my father told:
After WWII, Finland had to pay war compensations to Soviet Union. Sure, a nation of 3.2 million attacked a nation of 240 million. But that's another story. Anyhow, the Finnish yards needed to built a big commercial fleet for the Soviets - a huge amount of world's best merchant ships. The Soviets wanted to get two saunas to each of the vessels - one for Captain and one for the rest of the crew.
When the first of the vessels were under the final inspection before the delivery, the Soviets started to scream! They said that the seat in the sauna were made of cheap material - wood containing no tar. The Russians demanded "at least" copper sets!
Finns accepted with pleasure and we are still giggling how the Russians burned their asses.
The moral of the story is that copper is more noble than wood but for sure not in the sauna. Same applies with platinum; for me it's the ultimate material but not for a sporting watch.
Just imagine the first Soviet who sat to the copper plates when the temperature in the sauna was designed to be around 100 degrees. That memes me happy even everything happened 70 years ago.
Best, Kari
The best part is that it's true!
My late father was representing all the Soviet shipping interests in Finland from 1946. Oh man, he had stories but I can't tell many of those because some of the forum members would take those true stories as insults.
It's a pity that pres. Reagan is not among us anymore. He would have loved some of the stories.
Best, Kari
Lessons of life I love to hear about.
As for the 5711, I completly understand your way of seeing it: an elegant and (mainly) chic sport watch.
I must say that I have a slightly different view on the reference.
When I tried and handled the 5711 for the 1st time I remember I was attracted by the thinness and its elegance (nearly "dressy") side.
That's why I'm mainly attracted by the thin Nautiluses.
In this context, I see more the 5711 like an elegant watch which matches perfectly with a suit, during a dressy dinner for instance, more than a sport watch.
This is of course very personal and I fully understand people can stand on the other side of the fence (or in the middle but usually... this hurts).
That's why I would perfectly consider a 5711P as it would be the ultimate dressy 5711.
Very subjective of course.
Cheers, Mark
When I tried and handled the 5711 for the 1st time I remember I was attracted by the thinness and its elegance (nearly "dressy") side.
That's why I'm mainly attracted by the thin Nautiluses.
In this context, I see more the 5711 like an elegant watch which matches perfectly with a suit, during a dressy dinner for instance, more than a sport watch.
This is of course very personal and I fully understand people can stand on the other side of the fence (or in the middle but usually... this hurts).
That's why I would perfectly consider a 5711P as it would be the ultimate dressy 5711.
Very subjective of course.
Cheers, Mark
Wisdom learned and a laughter had at the same time. A great one! Thank you Kari. [nt]
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the tale of the two watches...
This particular watch is an enigma in the world of Patek rarities. A friend of a friend who wishes to be anonymous disclosed that there are currently TWO of these watches in the wild. The first one was delivered in the fall of 2013. The picture you see here was a watch taken delivery this year. Both watches are currently in private collection and were sold through Tiffany. The watch itself does scratch easily as per Dr. Kol's remarks. But, as the watch is Platinum, the metal itself when scratched only gets "displaced" and upon polishing, there is very minimal metal "lost" if any at all. If anyone is interested, I can get a hold of the watch to take more pictures for the forum members. Let me know... This message has been edited by TheCollector1688 on 2016-01-04 11:30:23 This message has been edited by TheCollector1688 on 2016-01-04 11:30:55
addendum
Delivery of the second watch was taken in 2015...did not mean this year as in 2016. Sorry.
The ultimate in co branding.
Thats commerce for you. But definitely a very nice watch. Investment wise its a winner.
And the heft is great i suppose. More of a posers watch.
Thanks for showing this gem.
Best
Geross
That's a very rare version indeed...
I knew the P version, especially from one of our fellow members who shares beautiful pictures from time to time, but didn't imagine that co-branded versions existed.
Thank you very much for sharing and, as you proposed, we'd love to see more of them if you ever come across it again in the future!
Great discovery.
Cheers, Mark
Thank you very much for sharing and, as you proposed, we'd love to see more of them if you ever come across it again in the future!
Great discovery.
Cheers, Mark
Would love to see this in person.
Thank you for sharing!
The colour is like a normal 5711 and turning the saturation filter on 
Bragging rights...
Modern Patek... the jury is out... but no doubt you have bragging rights where applicable....
Wow! And I thought the 'normal' 5711P was almost unique.
Anybody a clue how much they made of the 5711P?
Best,
H
I can't tell from the picture, but...
For Platinum Pateks, does this come with the embedded diamond at 6 in the bezel?
Regards,
skyeriding
Regards,
skyeriding