Patek Philippe

Just out of curiosity, why is it some patek platinum watches have a diamond on the case at the 6 o'clock position whereas some don't? I was speaking with a dealer today who thought all PP Platinums have a diamond but I know that is not the case with the 5059. If the intent was to distinguish the platinums from the white gold, shouldn't they have done this to all platinum cases?

For instance, the 5107P has a diamond and the earlier 3998P does not.

come with the diamond. At least ones from the current collection

The owner should be able to remember it is platinum and not white gold, so shouldn't need the reminder. The diamond is too small for others to notice, and even if someone does see it, I can't imagine someone taking note and saying "wow is that a little tiny diamond at 6 o clock, that must mean the watch case is platinum, and I'm so impressed".
Eric von Schonberg

also find ridiculous the fact that Lange has different hands for the platinum models?

please let us know

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I recall that you had said recently that you are going to place an order for the 5951....

are you still intending to do so even with the diamond on the case...

please let us know....

The diamond does not make me not want to get the platinum watch. I just think it's ridiculous. The diamond does not make the watch any more or less attractive to me.
Eric von Schonberg

case for that reason. The real reason is xxxx xxxxx xx xxxx. You didn't think I would reveal the answer did you ? However the answer makes for a good trivia question.

and not something else.
Eric von Schonberg

on all your points of view. I give in, you are right as always. ; )
This message has been edited by Roxbury on 2010-04-03 13:18:22

Thanks all for the posts. I think it might just be for would be buyers to confirm they are buying a platinum watch and not a white gold one. I agree with Eric that it is ridiculous because if this was truly the reason, they should have done it for all platinum cases or none. As I understand it (and I am by no means an expert on Patek or any other brand) the older 5059s did have the diamond and the later ones did not. I have a 5059 from 2006 and it does not have the diamond. I suppose it is just another one of those quirks of a prestige watch maker. Ah well.....

I think the diamod is purely to help potential new owners of pre-loved (or hated) platinum watches know it is platinum! I remembered i heard somewhere that many watches. vintage (1920s~1990s) are being passed off as platinum even though it is white gold. This is especially confusing as many of them have the exact same dial/hands/bezel/case designetc etc...

But in the next 15-30 years, i'm sure vintage (which means 'present' pateks) colletors would be happy there is a diamond to help them differentiate it! No more being dud-ed into buying a white gold!

Seriously, if the dial colour and everything else is the same, i.e the only difference is the CASE METAL, i'm sure 95% of us can't tell the metal is diamond or gold unless we have 2 different cased watches of the same make side by side!

heavier than wg....

cheers

but if you hold the wg in your hand, without having felt the platinum, how would u know which is which? 19.3 v 21.4g/cm3 sems too close a call without having both metals in front to diffrentiate.

i am sure if given a piece of metal with no indiction wg or pt, we would not tell the difference unless we have pior experience.

but then I would assume that it is wg....



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diamond at 6 oclock started with the 5056P annaul calender. truth is the i guess there is some excercise to distinguish the Plat fm the WG. like that feature.