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Don't even get me started on old print tech...

 
 By: mdg : October 13th, 2021-04:15
...I was speccing type and using wax and Xacto knives : ) ...even when Macs were available they weren't camera-ready yet : ) To this day I really miss the sound and smell of ink at a print shop during a press check...

Once you have worked in a print shop, ink is in the blood ;-)

 
 By: cshimokita : October 13th, 2021-08:04
thanks for the comment... Casey

I was an office slave doing the design...

 
 By: mdg : October 13th, 2021-13:17
...but I always looked forward to press checks and photo shoots...

For me it was a small offset shop so I did a little of everything...

 
 By: cshimokita : October 13th, 2021-13:30
Photography, type-set, layout, copy camera, colour separations, film development, plate making, press operator (17x22 Consolidated Pearl), folding, binding, cutting, drilling, delivery... most of the time I was in the darkroom... it was a great learning experience. Casey

Thanks for the behind the scene look .......

 
 By: robmks1 : October 13th, 2021-13:36
That's amazing. I got into offsett printing in 1972, but only did black and white. We had a monster camera with the copy and camera outide and the film part in the darkroom. Now it's a whole new world. 

Bob

Oh Yes... the monster copy camera...

 
 By: cshimokita : October 13th, 2021-21:08

I wish I had a photograph.  Like yours, the camera back was in the darkroom and the copy frame was in the next room.  We could process 17x22 inch film on the camera back and had development / rinse / hypo trays to match.  All chemicals were hand mixed - most likely not acceptable today... Lighting was provided by four arc lights (an arc lamp produces light by the sparking -an electrical arc- of a high current between two conducting electrodes, usually carbon rods).  We normally shot max 8½ x 11 inch film (held in place on the camera back via vacuum) and did the film layout on a large light table before contact burning the offset plate.

After darkroom work, I spend a huge amount of time at the light table... with colour film we worked in complete darkness but with b&w we could use a red safety lamp... with an auditable second tick for timing...

Brings back memories... it was all a manual process ;-)

Casey

Yes doctor, that is INK in my veins

 
 By: cazalea : October 13th, 2021-18:28
This is motivated by Casey's scanning tale. Forgive me for being so verbose.

My first job was at a newspaper, on a machine collating the sections before dumping them in a cart for delivery to the paperboys. It was there I was told "You can't trust the sales dept; they'll say anything to sell an ad" and "Don't trust editorial; they'll write any old thing just to fill the white space between ads". So "just concentrate on production and keep your head down" and I might say, your hands and arms black with ink and bulging like Popeye after a can of spinach.

Then I went to a publisher who was still setting type by hand and eventually progressed to Linotype machines. I was in editorial by then. Finally I moved to a company that did hard bound books; here's the plate for embossing a cover.




A few years later I was manager of all the editorial systems, as we transitioned from OCR readers scanning type done on IBM Selectrics and converted to paper punched tapes for output on typesetters. A massive leap forward came in 1983-4 when 16 of us got our own b/w terminals on a DEC computer. I was sent off to school to learn typesetting / programming. Eventually that progressed to developing the first electronic auto repair manual library in the late 1980's but still before Windows came out. That's my hand and ring (no watch shown) using a light pen which I decided was the best pointer device for greasy-handed mechanics.


Then I got diverted into developing systems that would serve the whole "enterprise" in automotive service and repair. The white board was our strategic development tool. I did the thinking and other guys did all the hard work of coding and so forth. But I had to talk the bosses into funding the whole thing - sometimes they did and sometimes they didn't.


This job drew information from a variety of providers and sources so required a lot of travel and fast talking. Concept to reality is much harder than people think.


After that project ended I moved into publishing math textbooks. This got me back to my roots (from a production point of view)


Notice there is no math on my computer screens! And I am wearing my new MIH hot off the presses from Switzerland.





Actually here I was not packing books, but sending a $15,000 AP perpetual loaner watch back to its rightful owner, SteveH. I'm wearing the Rolex I still own.



I retired about 10 years ago but continue doing 1-2 books a year for myself or friends and relatives.



This chronicles our discovery of 1000 whales in one year



And that led me to developing iBooks.








Writing about watches on the web is right up my alley.

Cazalea










Great story and photos Mike...

 
 By: cshimokita : October 13th, 2021-21:09
I wish I had taken some photos in the shop, it was a life changing experience. Casey

I remember another thing about film developing

 
 By: cazalea : October 14th, 2021-04:01
You reminded me …

We ran galleys a few feet long on our typesetters. Then we ran them through a waxer, cut the film into pieces and stuck it onto the page masters. Illustrations were spliced in where they were needed. Razor blades assisted in the fine spacing of headers and footers. Plus corrections, of course. 

If you are interested, there’s a quick illustrated summary here, showing 1970’s technology (and dress).

overbeck.com



But the fun bit for me was the silver recovery machine which extracted the silver from the developing solution. 

We made hundreds to thousands of dollars each year (depending price/oz) when we took the dregs down to a precious metal guy. Of course the boss kept the cash and used it to cover budget shortages or previous overspending.

Mike

We used rubber cement for the paper paste-ups...

 
 By: cshimokita : October 14th, 2021-21:20

black paper was glued in place where the photos would be located and the half-tones were taped in once the pages (negatives) were shot.

The 70s fashion photos are hilarious...

Casey

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I found a photo that I couldn't locate last week

 
 By: cazalea : October 21st, 2021-17:17
Here I am in the data center for the Oklahoma City newspaper, the Daily Oklahoman. They were the first paper that I knew of who went to full digital page makeup, and I was there to learn how they did it.

One thing I was told was they only rotated images during lunchtime, because it took all their processing power 30 minutes to rotate a 5x7" color image 90 degrees.

Those drives in the foreground are 300 mbytes, EACH. Only half of a CD-ROM and I think they cost about $15,000 each.



This was the editorial group at my company, which published auto repair manuals and parts catalogs. It's a manly group, isn't it? I was sort of the clean-cut kid relative to the rest of the gang.

The fashions are re 1978










My first computer related job...

 
 By: cshimokita : October 21st, 2021-23:58
was a medical billing package running on Apple II with duel 5¼ floppy disk drives, b&w monitor of course... it was a really big story when we introduced a hard drive ;-)

Love the photos... it was the fashion of the times that I remember well...

Casey

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