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Very cool that you saved such an interesting watch

 
 By: mpg13 : November 20th, 2016-19:27

I think Seiko would be best for restoration for obvious reasons. If they are not interested then it depends on who is and how much you want to spend. Best, Martin

P.S. For contacting Seiko I would suggest doing it through one of their boutiques in person. Unless someone here has an inside track.

Lets say open budget

 
 By: SALMANPK : November 20th, 2016-19:55
Which independent do you think is best to do a case and adjust it for accuracy?

The names you have mentioned are all top watchmakers

 
 By: mpg13 : November 20th, 2016-20:00
If you have purchased a watch from any of them it would at least get them to talk to you about it.

It just popped into my mind

 
 By: mpg13 : November 20th, 2016-20:10
Roland Murphy RGM Watches here in the US has done exactly the kind of work you want. He is not at the same level as the other gentlemen but I'm not sure that's required. Best, Martin 

Maybe this case would suffice

 
 By: cazalea : November 20th, 2016-20:34
Salman,

Is this close?







Could it somehow act as a guide?

My local watch repairman owns this watch - perhaps a deal could be made...

Hi Mike...

 
 By: SALMANPK : November 20th, 2016-23:31
Thank you for the suggestion, was never a huge fan of the original case and this 5626-7135, I was thinking this is a great opportunity to be creative and do a restomod, sort of what Singer does with the 911, create a really cool case for it and possibly even modify the color of the dial, any suggestions on who could be a good candidate to do the job?
S

Same case as the...

 
 By: gerald.d : November 21st, 2016-02:04
Salman -

What a find! And incredible to think that one of these somehow lost its case.

Honestly, I think it would be more appropriate to return it to as close to original condition as possible.

Have you considered tracking down a 4520-8010 and using the case from that watch? I'm pretty sure it should fit.

Kind regards,


Gerald.






Hi Gerald

 
 By: SALMANPK : November 21st, 2016-02:22
Thank you for the suggestion, was never a huge fan of the original case and the 70s looking case in the picture you posted. I was thinking this is a great opportunity to be creative and do a restomod, sort of what Singer does with the 911, create a really cool case for it and possibly even modify the color of the dial, any suggestions on who could be a good candidate to do the job?
S

Honestly?

 
 By: gerald.d : November 21st, 2016-02:47
Well, it is your movement and entirely your prerogative what to do with it. But personally I think it would be a travesty to do anything other than try to restore it to as close to its original condition as humanly possible. The case on the watch I posted is as near as damnit identical to the case on the Observatory Chronometer.
I kind of see where you are going with the Singer comparison, but am not convinced its a true analogy.
What you are proposing to do with this movement is more akin to discovering a 250 GTO engine transmission and chassis in a barn, swapping out the transmission for an automatic, and then wrapping a BMW 7 series body over the top to complete the car.
One thing I would ask though - if you do decide to recase it and change the dial in anyway, please consider selling the existing dial to me and putting an entirely new one on! It's one thing to think of re-casing this, but to alter the dial in any way would be sacrilege!
Kind regards,
Gerald.

Trust me Gerald

 
 By: SALMANPK : November 21st, 2016-03:09
The 7 series thing will never happen, I appreciate the history and significance of this movement. But taking a 964 911 and making it into a Singer 911 is something which I find appealing. That is why I want to use the right independent to do the job, someone who will get the vision and more importantly be able to adjust the accuracy of the movement. At the moment I am considering a design where we take the Grammer of Design style case from Grand Seiko as inspiration but expanding it to 40mm.

S

Grammar of Design...

 
 By: gerald.d : November 21st, 2016-03:39
The watch you describe (except for the 40mm bit) already exists. It's the Grand Seiko 4520-8000, as seen here from my collection -




Logically the movement you have should also fit this case, because it contains basically the same 4520A movement (just not finished and adjusted to the same extent as that in the Observatory Chronometer).

Kind regards,


Gerald.

Beautiful Watch :-)

 
 By: SALMANPK : November 21st, 2016-04:24
the condition looks pristine, is it NOS?
So who do you recommend? CL Klings, Antoine Prezisuo, Vianney Halter....?

Not quite NOS

 
 By: gerald.d : November 23rd, 2016-22:04
Hi Salman -
Not NOS, but very good condition.
Please don't take this the wrong way, but I am not comfortable making a recommendation as to who to carry out the work you are sugggesting, because I don't believe the work you are proposing should be carried out.
Kind regards,
Gerald.

We can agree to disagree...

 
 By: SALMANPK : November 24th, 2016-00:17
Seiko is a company that looks forward and upwards, squandering a unique opportunity to just do a back to original restoration is too narrow.

S

I encountered something similar once...

 
 By: Tony C. : November 22nd, 2016-13:25
those interested can read my account through the link below. If the original poster has any questions about the watchmaker who helped me, feel free to PM me.

Cheers,

Tony C.



Please retain the original dial & hands, even if you prefer to make another to use.

 
 By: Horology411 : November 22nd, 2016-14:06
First, like others have said, I would contact Seiko to see if:
1) An original replacement can be made.
-or-
2) A custom case can be made (perhaps by the Credor department).

if not, a third-party bespoke case would be an excellent option.  Consider the likes of Dornblüth and Benzinger in addition to your earlier excellent options.

For the design of the case, your tastes shall of course dictate   I happen to love the dial texture, and would create a classic dress watch with this basis.

~Imagine~

Classic Calatrava (96) case shape.  Exhibition back, polished bezel.  Case side with woven pattern to match dial as closely as possible, possibly extend pattern to top of lugs (otherwise polished).
or lyre lugs (think 90s Seamaster 120m or Aqua Terra)

Add a screw down drown (if possible) and 100-150m WR.

Now just decide if you want white and/or yellow metal for the case and bezel.