Audemars Piguet

Both factors do not contribute to the market value of a watch,actually most of the times they de value the watch.

As far as I am concerned a watch is a beautiful one wheather its endorsed or not,wheather its LE or not,but most of all IF I like it or not,the rest are just speculations....

Mo

but I don't think the Millenary has ever had the following that the RO Offshore or Royal Oak have, so I'm sure that affects its value/pricing. 

As for celebrity endorsement, I'd never buy a watch just because some celebrity is affiliated with the brand.  I'd only buy a watch a watch because I really like it.  If it has something to do with a celebrity, thats fine, but it would be the least significant factor in my purchase making decision.

If you really like the Quincy Jones Millenary, then go for it, be glad its not selling at MSRP and take advantage of the "bargain pricing." 

Best regards,

Dino

It can be a lot of fun to wear something not everyone else has rather than blending into a sea of more commonly seen watches.

My favorite version of the Millenary was the Star Wheel.  IMHO that made the best use of the case and it was much cooler than the round version.  A friend of mine had one in rose gold and it was just beautiful! 

I agree with the theory, buy what you really like! Thats the most important thing.

Best regards,

Dino

An absolutely stunning version of the Millenary!  I have seen several beautiful pictures of that watch as I am friendly with a former owner, Geo...not sure if that was his watch.  I know he recently sold it.  Great choice on your part!  Thanks for sharing some photos of it.

Best regards,

Dino

I never said buying a watch one does not see often should be a criteria for purchasing a watch.  I said,"It can be a lot of fun to wear something not everyone else has rather than blending into a sea of more commonly seen watches."

As for suggesting a rose gold Rolex Daytona the in the series of posts below, Thurgood asked if he should get a gold watch.  I felt a gold watch  was missing from his collection.  I initially thought he could use a true dress watch.  But he was looking for a rose gold watch to consider besides the 15400 and stated he did not like the offerings from PP, VC, Piaget, or others that came to mind.  For me that really would only leave the Rose Gold Daytona as an alternative.  There may be other rose gold watches that you like and you can feel free to suggest them, but there really are not a lot of other sporty watches that I would consider getting in rose.  I've seen the 15400 (and no offense to those that own one, but I think the proportions of the 15300 are better, and I don't like moving a movement from a smaller watch to a larger case as it becomes very evident when you look at the exhibition case back and compare the two).  I've handled a few gold APs including a new rose Jumbo, and to be honest I think Royal Oak is a watch that looks better in SS.  There is something about all the brushed finish on the bracelet that to my eye works better in SS than rose.  If comparing a 15400 in rose gold and a Daytona in rose gold, while my brain knows the 15400 is a finer watch, and has movement that is more finely finished than the Daytona, my eyes and heart find the Daytona in rose gold with a black dial a far more attractive watch. 

Best regards,

Dino

No watch can be everything to everyone.  I have always liked the Daytonas particularly the older ones, and I'll admit I am not that interested in their current line up.  However, after trying on a current Daytona in rose gold with a black dial, IMHO its one of the best looking sports watches.  I'm not saying its as rare or as finely made as something from PP, AP, or Breguet.  However, I really liked how it looked and felt. 

For the most part PP, AP, and Breguet, are not really in the same market as Rolex.  Its only really when you get into vintage Rolex or maybe all gold Rolex pricing that there starts to be some price over lap.

As for Breguet I like a few of their dress watches, but nothing they make really grabs my attention.  As for Patek, they are beautifully made, but unless one has the funds to get something really unique and complicated, I find them a bit stodgy.

I also find that among Thurgoods considerations regarding an all gold watch, with in house movement and with price being somewhat of a concern, a rose gold Daytona is a reasonable suggestion.  

Best regards,

Dino 

I don't think there are any as you inquired "Perceived barriers against the Millenary QJ."  I just think there is a stronger public interest in the ROO/RO.  Its very rare to see a Millenary in the wild.  In all the years its been on the market, I think only on one occasion have I seen someone wearing a Millenary in public (it was a white dial chronograph on a bracelet).  A very interesting piece, but my favorite has long been the Star Wheel version.  

Glad to hear that you buy watches you like and are not interested in them just because of a celebrity endorsement.  I would never buy something just because a celebrity is endorsing it.  Personally, I find it more interesting when I see old photos showing celebrities in the 1950, 1960s etc, wearing fine watches.  That was back at a time when the celebrity bought the watch because they liked it, or it was given to them by a friend, significant other, or spouse.  It was a personal choice to wear it back then.  Now I find it far less interesting to see celebrity endorsed watches as its part of a promotional business deal, that the celebrity benefits from more than it is  a personal choice to wear something they like. 

Best regards,

Dino