This message has been edited by Dr No on 2025-10-15 18:12:59
Hi Tony,
this is an interesting post - I have learned something new this way.
The dial is a sight to behold - very beautiful and wonderfully preserved.
This chronometer might be one on my future watchlist...
kind regards
erich
despite most of us being keen vintage collectors we always have something to learn and i've learnt all about the 602 calibre. yours is in exceptional condition, good enough for me to doubt the originality of the dial, but i'm no expert so......??
interesting point you raised about the 601 adjusted question. i would think that 'possibly' because the 602's were all chronometer certified and had dials which state that, there was no need to mark the dials whereas the 601 and other 6xx's were marked 'adjusted to 2 positions' to show that they were of a higher quality than a standard non adjusted movements being made at the time. just a thought.
as an interesting aside, i have owned several and still own 2 321 calibre speedmasters. they are unadjusted, but the 321 from the same year in my seamaster chrono is marked 'adjusted to 2 positions'. that would indicate that technically the seamaster is a higher end piece than the speedmaster although we know that even during tragic meltdown on Apollo I Ed Whites speedy carried on running which makes them literally bomb proof.
the anomalies of vintage Omegas
very nice piece Tony. not jealous at all...really, i'm not...honestly.
Graham
Thanks a lot Tony, this is an informative post and the photos are beautiful. The accuracy in placing the little paddles of lume inside the black boxes on the dial is admirable.
Followup question for you or Graham on cals 601 and 602: were different parts with higher quality finishing used in 602, or are the parts interchangeable?
Tom
..book (Marco Richon) gives the following information:
600 27.90SC PC AM 17P 1960 (manuel version of 550) Seamaster 409.000 pieces
601 27.90SC T1 PC AM 17P 1960 Seamaster -De Ville -Genève 831.000 pieces
602 27.90SC T1 PC AM bull 17P 1964 Constellation (rare)
This could mean that the 602 is essentially a 601 which underwent additional regulation at the factory in order to receive a bulletin.
Ben.
Although Richon's more recent publication "Journey through Time" demonstrates identical text in the caliber specifications, the modelname Constellation has been changed here into Genève.
Sorry for initially looking up in the older book...
Page 479 shows several Genève models - among them a cal.602 gold model with the caption: "The first and only chronometer version of the Genève series".
regards, Ben.
Very recognizable Bill,
in those days the Museum-staff were remarkably greatful with questions and remarks from a critical audience because they were convinced this was a great help in researching, understanding and clarifying their own history and products. Getting the facts right is essential for a museum, every piece of information helps.
cheers, Ben.


Hi,
I just bought a Geneve cal. 602.
Reading your posts and also accross the internet I have some doubts that the case it's original. It seems that the reference 135.012 SP fits the Geneve line but the cal. 601.
Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks.




Hi,
Why do you buy this watch when you are in doubt?
I am sorry to say it is a "Frankenwatch", a marriage.
It is a correct chronometer movement for the rare Geneve chronometer in a non correct case!
The case is from the ordinary (non chronometer) Geneve line and should house a Cal. 601
I had it on my watch list as I was curios who would jump on it...
Sorry for the bad news!
kind regards
Erich
thanks also for the history info.
Cheers
Thanks Tony.
Very informative thread and very nice Geneve.
In the mean time, I am still waiting for this one, a friend of mine "promised" to let it go.
Caliber 602.
Best.

