Officine Panerai

i recently got this awesome automatic PANERAI luminor marina watch.. but after seeing almost-perfect replicas on the net, i doubt if mine is authentic.... i search hours and hours on the net looking at over a hundred REAL and FAKE panerai models but it seems that mine is one of a kind... the only problem is a lot of people says that REAL panerai watch is made with "blue" screws.. but apparently.. mine was not. sorry for the blurry images but i hope you guys can help me....

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-08-25 13:41:46

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look like the real deal and buying over the net i dont think is a good idea unless you have certain knowledge of the seller or dealer anything else is certain to be fake .

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how could one even think that was remotely authentic?

maybe you can trade him for one of yours

Alepos

even some 6 year olds could point that out,

panerai never made an open faced watch
panerai only makes a back display tourbillon
panerai doesnt do moon phase
panerai doesnt do an open dial!!!!
panerai doesnt have that seconds hand
panerai doesnt have that back
panerai doesnt have cheap engravings not even a hairs thickness deep
panerai doesnt come from a guy on the side of the street
panerai comes with a pearwood box
panerai costs more than a dime

its worth maybe 15 cents as a joke to a friend... everytime i see someone wearing one of these "tourbillon" panerai's or breitlings i make sure to not only point it out and laugh, but try and get the "story" as well.. as there is always a story behind it

"my dead grandmother left me this 45mm tourbillon"
"i found on side of road" "must be real..."
"my uncle gave it to me"
"my dad gave it to me"
"y dog gave it to me"
my dead dog gave it to me"
"a 6 year old gave it to me"
"my grandfather left it to me and some pateks"
"the jeweler told me it was real"
"the guy in the alley said it was real"
"the guy in the dumpest said it was real"
"the hobo traded it to me for a bottle of rum"
"the hobo said it was real"
"the hobo's dog said it was real"
"i traded it for drugs"
"i got it as change in a convienence store"
"i bought it on ebay for 5 million dollars"
"i won the lottery and then bought it from the mall"
etc..

i dont even think a 10 yr old kid would know all those facts..
thanks for some of the infos... you can also do it without being sarcastic with some statements..

i never had a panerai b4... i didn't buy it from the net, it was actually a gift to me by a friend who doesn't seem to know the brand.. its just for the screws that i doubt its authenticity.. like i said i never had the chance to upload clear photos but its far from being a fake one.... so can anybody confirm me that ALL authentic panerai watches got blue screws????

and any Panerai collector will tell you that right off the bat.  Sorry to tell u but your watch is counterfeit and obviously far from being authentic.  It is a total obvious fake and a poor replica.

Sorry to tell you the bad news.

- Anthony

I find it really commendable that the moderators of this forum can provide such polite and balanced replies to a scam like this (I think that is how it is spelled; apologies if I got a vocal wrong, as English is not my first language).

I am a newcomer to collecting, although I have always been mad about watches. I dare not call myself a purist, as I think it takes a little more than reading some books, and this forum, and post the occasional comment. I have only recently acquired my first Panerai, a simple and unassuming 210, because I love the dial, and the case, and the history, and because I just love the thing. If I like it I may go on to bigger and better things, who knows...

But even as a newcomer to collecting, and to Panerai, and not really with enough depth to call myself a purist, I find posts like this insulting. I had not quite worked out why moderators did not write them off from the outset, but reading some of the witty and articulated replies here is so entertaining that perhaps it is just as well that they do not. Politeness and civility deals with them just as effectively.

A blurred photo on a mirror....
This message has been edited by BCL on 2008-08-25 10:07:31

Maybe you need to ask some questions not involving blued screws? You're kind of fixated on the screws....

Perhaps you might consider changing "friends".  I'd also advise you to get a tripod, it does wonders for reducing fuzziness in photos.

well, honestly that was a shot from my webcam... i had this laziness last night i didnt even care to do it with my digicam.. if you've got really helpful things to say i uploaded clearer photos again.. im kinda fixed with the screws bcoz almost all the sites i saw talked about it.... anyway, i went to a small watch store here in italy and he told me it seem to be authentic be he was not so sure because he never sold those brands so im planning to go to a bigger store and i think its even a registered panerai retailer..

Firstly, I would love to have friends who would openly and happily buy me a very expensive watch!  I guess I am not that popular.

Secondly, there are good quality fakes and bad quality fakes.  I guess your friend was too cheap to get you a good quality fake.

Thirdly, that is a pretty poor quality photo. Especially if you are trying to genuinely seek help on identifying your watch.

Finally, you have a brand new login for the specific purpose of posting this query.  Please don't stop posting as I find you very amusing.

Given this "template" approach, its difficult not to suspect that you are attempting to check if you are able to list this fake on eprey in the hope of snaring an unsuspecting victim by testing it out on a forum of watch enthusiast.  If that was your intention, I'd suggest you change suppliers as your current source is pretty poor.  I would also suggest changing your story in the future.  Its becoming too easy to spot like the Nigerian 419 scams.

Also, why so fixated on the blue screws?  Given what you have, the blue screws should be the least of your worries.  Were you going to use a blue magic marker to "colour" in the the screws? 

Having said that, please accept my apologies if I misread your intentions as I am under a lot of stress due to another urgent matter.  I am trying to help a widow who has a signficant sum of money that she can't access.  She said that she'll share it with me if I send her some money to cover legal costs.

Gaz

This message has been edited by Gaz on 2008-08-24 20:03:49 This message has been edited by Gaz on 2008-08-24 20:09:55

Gaz, I think you are being a tad too cynical here - it's really not on...

The question about the blue screws is a good one - you and I know well that Panerai is soon to introduce, via their new Filigree Activated Kernel Extrusion process, a new color and so asking about whether his watch is fake is perfectly legitimate. This is one of two new features which I think we can discuss on this very private forum.

So the new color of the screws is bright red (Pantone Red 032) and all new Panerais will also have the initials of the new coloring process engraved on the back. That’s how people will be able to tell a real one from these terrible imitations one may chance upon in louche bars and other establishments nuns do not frequent.

This message has been edited by AFSG on 2008-08-24 20:41:34

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I feel rather ashamed that I belittled someone who is just thirsty for knowledge.  After all, I was a newbie once and everyone here was so helpful when I asked whether or not the Penerai boutique I visited in Shenzhen was a genuine boutique. 

Thanks AFSG.  I will certainly be more tolerant of such posts in the future.

Gaz

firstly if you were that concerned whether its a fake or not why post such a bad pic  and ask for help secondly you would have done your homework on the net as he did and realise that model doesnt exist in the pam collection so why ask for help in the first place there are panerai boutiques in italy im sure they can advise also why insist on the blue screws when the original question was if its a fake the screws i would think  are irrelevant but thats my opinion,Gaz let me know how you go with that lady always willing to help. 

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...did someone say nuns? And bars? Let's go!

 

Cheers,

pplater.

...seriously...if you looked at 'hundreds' of panerai pics and still question if yours is real, then my suggestion is to stay away from expensive purchases...

 

 

Gaz

ill go back to my school and ask my teacher to teach me HOW TO ASNWER WHAT'S BEING ASKED.. or mybe the lesson.. SHUTTING MY MOUTH IF I KOW I CANT HELP...

im not a watch geek... and i just asked a simple question.... i wouldn't post it here if i found enuf answers on the net..
so i just need clear answers and i don't care to those who just pretend to know everything about it but cannot post a single fact that might help me....
i manage a sportshop.. if my clients are askin a shirt.. or showing me a photo.. of whatever jersey.. no matter how it was blurry i can tell what is it or even of what year it was used. that's what you call being an expert... i hope you guys get it.. if you claim you're just too expert for my question... just shut off of you're ** mouths and that will even help this thread not to go longer for nonsense.. @ASFG i respond to one of the comments of aptronym and i posted clearer photos there.. hope you can take a look at it, wud really appreciate it.... thanks!

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This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-08-25 21:07:56

Please no profanity here.

Thanks,
Anthony

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2008-08-25 13:43:13