Officine Panerai

Hello Paneristi's, Just got the Panerai PAM382 Bronze from my local AD. Just love the size and the feel of the size and weight of the watch. Falling in love with a Panerai again after a very long time...

you can love the 382, you can hate the 382 but you cannot...ignore...the 382. Together with the 339, IHMO, it offers a glimpse into Panerai's future....

Enjoy it...thoroughly!!!!!!

Ciao - Sergio

I think Panerai chose the right model for this idea in the Submersible.  Also, I think the green dial was a great decision.  I would love to see the watch on the green canvas strap.

This is one true beauty...I really like the green dial, give the watch a really old vintage feel.

Wear it in good health.

Cheers

I don't know why, but it didn't impress me when I saw it in Geneva, almost one year ago...

Then, re thinking about it, I'm not a big fan, but slowly I start to appreciate it.

Enjoy!

Best,

Nicolas.

orthodox spyglass... If, on the other hand, you factor in the guts that it took to create an "American" piece and make it rather handsome, with personality to spare, this piece takes on a whole new meaning and appreciation level...IMO of course..

But I can't really put in words why I was not that impressed, and why I slightly changed my mind...

I look at it as a funny piece, when my favourite will still be the Pam 24 A, the 64 or a mini Egiziano to come?

Best,

Nicolas.

 

it's one of The HOTTEST Watch in my Book.

 i'm Happy for you to score One.

wear it in Good Health.

 

 Tony

Is a good characteristic of Panerai watches, a very strong one.

Cheers and enjoy!

René

congrats, nice watch

If we are talking about AD discount, I don't think there is any for the 382.

Best,

Horo

Well, I have a very good relationship with my ad.
And I want to keep it this way. He knows me. He knows which watches I like and want
he knows I won't flip it within one week.
His knowledge is great and I can buy more than only Panerai.

This isn't the case when talking about a boutique. I'm not blaming the staff. They are nice peope to.
But they don't know you.
If you buy 7 different brands, you cant be a well known cusromer at 7 different boutiques.

If Panerai would have 10 boutiques all over the world, there wouldn't be a problem but when they want
to open one in every major city.... :-(

they should respecr their AD more and be very thankfull that the AD supported Panerai all these years.
Now I hve a feeling that are fooling the AD.

Somehow they steal their clients.

Just look at the sought after pieces. They alway go to the boutiques.
How many 382 does an AD get? ???
1or 2? And how many go to a boutique? 15 - 20?
Just ask an Ad how many 382 he gets.....

Sorry but I prefer my AD

I think you're a bit bias. What you are writing about, actually, it's priviledge. You have developped YOUR priviledge with your AD over time and now that...others....are going to be priviledged (in your mind) by the boutiques, you think it's unfair. I, on the contrary, believe that Panerai is well justified in opening their own distribution network and control their own distribution. Yes, the AD have served them well over the years but they also served....themselves....equally well. I don't think it unfair to tell your distributors, thanks but from now on I'll do it myself. It's like the girlfriends you "dump" when you get married, isn't it? They might think it unfair, some will hate you for the rest of their lives, some will just shrug and move on. Bottom line, though, you don't really care because you've found what's good for YOU... IMHO of course...

Ciao - Sergio

"I don't think it unfair to tell your distributors, thanks but from now on I'll do it myself."

Are you serious ?

I would call this a shame

It's the same as Panerai would say. Thank you European customers, you were good clients but now we do better business in Asia. So goodbye ...

 

it happens all the time and agents know it. In Japan, 20 years ago, every brand had an agent. This gave the companies the chance to enter the market. Nowadays, though, every brand has its OWN company and distribution network. That's because agent have their own agendas sometimes and can become detrimental to expansion. I don't think Panerai will leave Europe. Matter of fact they have opened OWN boutiques in France, Spain, Milan, The 4 Season hotel in Florence and I'm sure they'll open many more. If you don't give the chance to the public, at large, to walk into a boutique and buy a very nice, coveted model, you'll always restrict your "goodies" to the...old men's club....I think that, if you want an LE/UE in future, you/I/him/them, should walk into a boutique, check the catalogue and....paying an appropriate booking fee....order whatever they have avalable. Now, that would take care of the...flipper phoenomenon, wouldn't it? This way, everybody would have a shot at an LE and the additional profit would go into Panerai's pockets, isn't it? I've been outside the...old man's club....and paid premium for every piece I own (the whole 24 of them). I also, recently, managed to get an LE through a boutique, at long last and I would have gladly paid a booking fee, fair and square.

Cheers - Sergio

if you own 24 you coould have been a very good cutomer at any AD ;-)

I'm not against boutiques but I think the more or less 20 they have now is more than enough. It's good to have one in the major city's but when I read the want to open 80 or 100 of them....then I'm not happy anymore.

 

Thing is, a number of them are discontinued and old (sold out) LEs. As for the number of boutiques, it will be up to Richemont to determine, right? After all it is their company...

Ciao - Sergio

Like you, I prefer to get thru one or two ADs that I have a great relationship with. But sadly, the power of the brands, and the rise of social media like this forum enables the brands to relate and correspond with their customers, better then ever. I feel for the ADs, they cultivate the relationship with end users like us, but after a deals, the only way for customers to secure select pieces are thru their boutiques. Its sad really, but a unavoidable reality. We can explain it all as seeking to improve margins, improving shareholders returns etc etc, its just I guess something a end user like us have to live with. Btw, I can also quote you examples of ADs profiteering themselves, securing pieces that are "traded" at premium outside. I can even quote you, via pm, one case that I literally caught a AD sales exec flogging off a PAM thru a grey dealer, and probably splitting the premium over list with him. So its ever the double edged sword.

I wish you secure your desired piece soon, if anyone, you probably deserve this PAM more then many who has got them.

Best,

Horo

with a 339....

Cheers

Sigh, such things do happen, detriment to the end users and consumers.

Best,

Horo

A great catch, something really out of the ordinary.

Best regards,

George

No message body

Congrats, I am waiting for mine too... waiting for it to come in the Christmas stocking....

Cheers.... Ian

No message body

No message body

i've been offered this watch for 19k USD from a dealer, i have no Panerai connections with any boutique so i can't buy at retail, do you think that's a fair market price? 

Whilst bronze casing is not unique to PAM...GG and Anonimo has done it before, but for whatever reason, PAM seems to be able to do it with better definition

Best,

Horo

Looks great!  Congrats!  

This is really the kind of piece I can't judge without having see it live. Photos look really good, but I haven't seen it yet so I'll wait a bit before saying whether I like it or not.

No message body