KMII
[Montblanc Moderator]
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Cannot fully agree with you...
Peugeot was considered the French Mercedes for a long time and looking to Africa and the 404s and 504s that are still doing sterling service there many decades later is a testament that it's not only a fanboy statement (never actually owned a French car).
As for luxury cars, it's a matter of French post WW2 tax policy, which penalised luxury cars, making it non-competitive.
As for Facel Vega, the cars were pretty but the engineering behind them was relatively primitive compared to say Citroens of the time and the build quality was more akin to British Leyland. Strong engines, though - a predecessor of the muscle car era, if you wish.
Renault sucks!!
😡😡😡😡 Again an example why I will never ever buy a French car. Ever.
Agreed at 200% with you, Renault was never known for making high quality automobiles and neither was Peugeot except Citroen with the older vintage GS, DS and SM models
Even in the newer modern car manufacturing department and into manufacturing luxury or prestige cars, these three brands have never been able to match Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercedes, BMW, Audi or Lexus regarding innovation, quality of build and durability. T...
Cannot fully agree with you...
Peugeot was considered the French Mercedes for a long time and looking to Africa and the 404s and 504s that are still doing sterling service there many decades later is a testament that it's not only a fanboy statement (never actually owned a French car)....
Peugeot 404 and 504 were not bad compared to their modern heirs but don't forgt the older Mercedes 240d ou 300d from the 70's still running
In a Facel Vega, everything to the chassis and the interior was hand built and hand crafted and they were an independant car manufacture so I don't think there is comparison with even Jaguar of the 60's-70's which reliability was questionable. It was also...
We do not disagree that much :)
Sure, the 300 letter series started the muscle car era - what I meant was that Facel Vega was more of that kind of car - solid acceleration but not quite a fully fledged GT that would handle decently, too. And compared to pre-war French cars, like the Voi...
we finally agree on some points
The 404 and 504 are not far from the w123 but the w123 had however better engineering and a slightly better overall quality of the Facel Vega is not a Hispano Suiza, a Talbot Lago, a Voisin, a Delahaye or a Delage. However it was much more refined, luxur...
That we do :)
The DS was a different kind of car than the Facel. Moving the Facel at similar speeds across the country (not Autoroute) would probably have resulted in lost / broken axles and many close hedge encounters. But in terms of outright speed, or opulence, the ...
I know I know
But I'm still not buying a French car. Although the DS is a beautiful, especially the SM is supercool.
Ah Facel Vega! Top cars, for sure. Alpine had some great cars, as well. And Peugeot made some lovely and very interesting cars such as the...
2015 GTIs, 404 Coupé, 504 Coupé and a few others. Best, Nicolas
Ferrari too
For how many a Ferrari didn't win either a GP or a championship? 20 years? Yep, Honda sucks as well, only Mercedes is a reliable manufacturer. Why is it that a good pilot like Ricciardo sometimes reaches the podium, driving the same car? Perhaps driving a...
Just like Honda McLaren
It's simply bad luck. But he is having a lot of it this saison....
Actually Honda power unit is absolutely weak
The funny conversations between Alonso and his team should be collected!
These jokes appear on Facebook now :-)
Not really following F1 but from the few things i read Max is really very unfortunate. Time will tell if his luck will turn .... . ...
Yes I've seen them :-)
yes he is, but people should not forget how long it took Schumacher before he really won with those Ferrari's...took him what? 5 years?
Nah, don't blame the French ...
.. or Renault for that matter. Be happy Max doesn't have to race in a Volkswagen