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Advice needed: this or that?
I am trying to choose between two watches:
A Felipe Pikullik Classic:
and an H. Moser & Cie Vantablack:
Thoughts? I have *some* views of my own - clearly - but am interested in the opinions of people on here…
I am not unduly swayed by manual vs automatic - both have pros and cons. I’d like to keep price out of it for now - though it will be a factor, let’s assume they are priced the same.
In terms of looks, finishing, mechanism, brand story (and likely future development) and - not to a decisive but to a small extent - likely future value (it’s not an investment but we all end up selling at least some pieces sometimes!): which would you go for?
Thanks in advance!
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Advice needed: this or that?
I am trying to choose between two watches: A Felipe Pikullik Classic: and an H. Moser & Cie Vantablack: Thoughts? I have *some* views of my own - clearly - but am interested in the opinions of people on here… I am not unduly swayed by manual vs automatic ...
I would go for the Pikullik but would add an engraved
balance cock. I would also go for a pin buckle as the one pictured above does not look high-grade and comfortable (could be wrong here). Thanks.
FP for me
I had him make me a custom watch a long time ago. He designed this with some input from me and it came out amazingly. THEN I VERY STUPIDLY SOLD IT. I was very specific about dial texture, the numerals, the colors…he nailed it all. I will be ordering from ...
The Pikulik for sure
as the brand is still priced reasonably as it is not as well known as Moser. The quality is astounding for the price.
Probably the Moser - as I like the unadorned dial
If you can get the FP with an unadorned dial - then it makes the choice a whole lot harder. Go for the one that makes you happiest Cheers JML
Thanks all so far: keep them coming!
To be clear: the idea at this stage would be to choose between these two specific pieces (so no alterations allowed, at least in the short term). I agree that a completely unadorned dial is part of the appeal on the Moser - but the FP one is only slightly...
Curious why you say that.
Can you elaborate? Both are similarly-sized steel watches with great mechanisms/finishing (it’s not at all clear that Moser wins on finishing incidentally - I would give that to FP - though Moser’s are fully in-house whereas FP’s are ETA ebauches). Moser ...
Exactly the inhouse vs the ETA
Nothing wrong with an ETA but I want to see more than just some extra finishing Yes it’s very well done but imo nowadays there are too many independents that just put some extra anglage and some inward angles on the movement. That’s nice but I appreciate ...
I prefer hand-wound watches, but I like the
design of the Moser better. So probably Moser, but my feeling could differ in real life. Best, Emmanuel
They're both great, I have both
I am from Berlin, so the FP is a hometown hero story for me. I like supporting young entrepreneurs as well, so that all makes it a very compelling story for me. The Moser is a slightly more elegant watch, and the Vantablack / Anish Kapoor appeals to me as...
Yes - have definitely seen the FP on your website before (plus you have posted about it here or on Reddit).
Don’t think I knew you had the Moser as well….. Helpful perspective, thank you!
That is a difficult choice for sure, I suspect you would be pleased with either.
the FP is perhaps more exclusive? It has a beautiful movement and the hands have a lovely look to my eyes. The FP logo on the dial is a slight distraction . The Moser Vantablack is so luscious deep and distinctive, my only issue is legibility, I might str...
Both great watches but for me not in the same category like Bruni said .
I own a very early FP and to me this was a nice and fun watch to add but nothing to serious, ofcourse he stepped up his game a lot over the years but for me still not in the same league as Moser , my problem with moser is that they are doing a lot (to muc...