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Baselworld 2011: Patek Philippe 5208 triple complication with minute repeater monopusher chronograph and instantaneous perpetual calendar.

 

Obviously many here and myself first may wonder if we will ever see this watch out of the Patek Philippe window at Baselworld or the Geneva boutique. Those who may not wonder such question may answer "why bother?". I've read your many answers complaining in some way about so many "Grande complication" watches in this year's novelties from Patek Philippe. Well if that's really that much a problem for you you can have a look there:  patek.watchprosite.com

 

I think, or guess, that the truth may be that the market for such complicated watches from Patek Philippe is essential for them. I too think that you first among others ask always more from Patek Philippe. I finally know that Patek Philippe's prestige is due to the historical general high level of quality of its products, but also and maybe even more to the fascination exercised by its permanent prowess on the complicated watch market.

 

Three year ago the 5207 was revealed at Baselworld. patek.watchprosite.com

 

This extraordinary instantaneous perpetual calendar based on the toubillon minute repeater calibre from Patek Philippe was the nest for a new improvement of the breed. This improvement is renewed with the new Patek Philippe 5208.

 

The new watch uses the automatic winding minute repeater base calibre R 27 PS of the 5078, turning it into a R CH 27 PS QI, for "Repetition chronographe 27 mm petite seconde quantieme instantane" so if you need a translation, an automatic winding minute repeater with (monopusher) chronograph and instantaneous perpetual calendar with moon phases.

 



 

So if you except the unique piece reference 3615 made between 1982 and 1986, the new 5208 is the first wristwatch from Patek Philippe mixing a chronograph and a minute repeater. That it adds an instantaneous perpetual calendar emphasizes its exceptional complexity. The automatic winding is a proof in some way of the usability wished by Patek Philippe.

 



 

Beyond what is apparent on its face, the Patek Philippe 5208 adds

a high tech feature. It is the first Grande Complication that integrates silicon-derived Silinvar® components: the revolutionary Pulsomax® escapement and the Spiromax® balance spring. These two features were incorporated in the Patek Philippe Advanced Research reference 5450 three years ago. You will be able to find all original information about these on my subject about the 5450:  patek.watchprosite.com

 

The apparition of the Spiromax and Pulsomax advances in a higher end piece (the 5208 is the #2 now in the order of most complicated wrist watches by Patek Philippe, after the Sky Moon Tourbillon) is the first implementation in the general catalog of the brand (although the 5208 will be limited in numbers by its complexity and sold exclusively by the Geneva boutique for the time being). We can imagine that it is only the beginning of a slow spreading to the whole range.

 



 

If the watch is extremely complicated and high tech, it is surprisingly simple in its dial organization and consequently seems easily readable, whatever information you're looking for (and if you can't read it you can still make it ring). The calendar is nearly on line at the top. The time is easily readable on the vertical axis. The chronograph indications are on a horizontal line at the middle. The moon phase is nearly alone at the bottom if someone really wants to read it.

 

It is also simply usable: only one pusher for the chronograph (start, stop reset), one slider for the repeater!

 



 

The implementation of the chronograph parts has been done between the base plate and the calendar plate (that is right below the dial). This was necessary as the repeating mechanism couldn't be moved and needed all the room on the back side. That has two consequences.

 First you won't see the chronograph mechanism from the back.

Then it has necessitated to have an indirect indication of the time as the base plate and the dial were separated by the chronograph mechanism and the cannon pinion couldn't go through the chronograph wheel. So the energy of the cannon pinion is transferred laterally to pass through the chronograph mechanism and be sent back to the middle of the watch dial to drive the minute and hour hands and the instantaneous perpetual calendar indications. Only the seconds hand at six is powered directly!

 

The perpetual calendar plate is directly inspired from the 5207 plate but has been adapted to accommodate the presence of the chronograph mechanism below. The complication of the instantaneous indication relies in the necessity to have all indications move at the same time of course, and as they need more energy than hands, to have them move perfectly, without any incomplete or excessive move.  Again such constraints were analyzed there: patek.watchprosite.com

 



 

The chronograph mechanism is quite modern too as it uses for powering the minute and hours counters the friction drives of the Patek Philippe proprietary calibre CHR 27-525 PS of the ultra thin split seconds 5959 (and now also 5950 and 5951). It also uses the toothing profiles of the chronograph wheels of the same calibre, to reduce wear and increase power transmission efficiency.

 

Furthermore it also uses the patented self setting hammers and brake levers of the other proprietary chronograph calibre CH 29-535 PS of the 5170 and now 5270. This calibre was extensively explained there: patek.watchprosite.com

 



 

As already said the chronograph is of the monopusher style. There's only one pusher that always repeat the same cycle: start/stop/reset.

 

The seconds are read on the central hand, the 60 minutes at 3H30 and the 12 hours at 8H30. You will notice that the leap year indicator and the night and day indicator are discreetly sunk into the chronograph counters.

 



 

Another aspect that you may easily miss is the case construction. Please look at the picture above and you will notice a three parts construction: back, middle and bezel. But these three parts are clenched between and screwed to two clamps. These two clamps are also the pierced lugs. That gives a very appealing construction as you can also see below.

 



 

The 701 parts fit in a 44mm platinum case (thickness 15,70mm). You will find the full technical data below.

 



 

Are you ready to measure the time it takes to your minute repeater to ring the time ?

 

Dje

 

Technical data Grand Complication Ref. 5208 in platinum

Minute repeater, monopusher chronograph, instantaneous perpetual calendar with aperture displays, and moon phases

Movement Caliber R CH 27 PS QI

Self-winding mechanical movement, minute repeater and subsidiary seconds. Monopusher chronograph with column wheel, chronograph hand, 60-minute and 12-hour counters. Instantaneous perpetual calendar. Day, date, month, and leap-year cycle in apertures, day/night indicator, moon phases. Overall diameter: 32 mm (repeater and chronograph 28 mm; instantaneous perpetual calendar 32 mm) Height: 10.35 mm

Number of parts: 701 Basic movement with minute repeater: 331 Chronograph mechanism: 160 Instantaneous perpetual calendar: 210 Number of jewels: 58

Power reserve: Max. 48 hours

Balance: Gyromax® Semi-oscillations per hour: 21,600 (3 Hz) Balance spring: Spiromax® Escapement: Pulsomax® (lever and escape wheel in Silinvar®) Balance spring stud: Adjustable

Functions: Two-position crown at 3 o'clock – Pulled out: To set the time – Pushed in: To wind the watch

Pusher: Three-phase chronograph monopusher at 2 o'clock: Start, stop, reset

Hallmark: Patek Philippe Seal

Displays: Hours and minutes from the center Sweep chronograph hand Subdials at: – 60-minute counter between 3 and 4 o'clock – 12-hour counter between 8 and 9 o'clock – Subsidiary seconds at 6 o'clock

Apertures: Day between 10 and 11 o'clock in a polished white-gold frame Date at 12 o'clock in a polished white-gold frame Month between 1 and 2 o'clock in a polished white-gold frame Moon phase at 6 o'clock Day/night indication between 7 and 8 o'clock Leap year cycle between 4 and 5 o'clock

Corrector push pieces: – Day corrector between 11 and 12 o'clock – Month corrector between 12 and 1 o'clock – Moon-phase corrector between 5 and 6 o'clock – Date corrector between 6 and 7 o'clock

Delivered with correction stylus in ebony and 18K white gold

Slide Minute repeater with strike on low-pitched gong for hours, high/low for quarter-hours, and high for minutes.

Features Case: 950 platinum with pieced lugs, platinum back, and interchangeable display back with sapphire-crystal window. Diamond of approx. 0.02 ct. between the lugs at 6 o'clock

Dimensions: Diameter 44 mm Height: 15.70 mm Width between lugs: 22 mm

Slide: In 950 platinum on the left side of the case to activate the minute repeater Dial: 18K gold, sunburst charcoal 11 applied "obus" hour markers in 18K white gold

Dauphine hands in 18K white gold for hours and minutes Baton-style counterbalanced chronograph hands, 18K white gold, white lacquered Baton-style hands for subsidiary seconds as well as 12-hour and 60-minute counters, 18K white gold, white lacquered Railway track scale on dial periphery 18K white-gold frame for date aperture, hammered and diamondpolished 18K white-gold frames for day and month apertures, hammered and polished

Strap: Alligator leather with square scales, hand-stitched, shiny chocolate brown, platinum fold-over clasp

 

 

 

This message has been edited by Dje on 2011-03-27 12:29:18 This message has been edited by Dje on 2011-03-27 21:39:18

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