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Harry Winston

My dear MTF and Dr. Cheong. . .

 

. . . I have as you can imagine followed this thread with some interest, and without expressing an opinion on the watch, I can't quite credit that you genuinely think an anecdotal reportage of 8 out of 10 'not being with it' (whatever that means) constitutes a robust data set.  In any case we are speaking of a subjective evaluation of a design object; one of the things I always liked about ThePuristS was the general community and specifically moderator resistance to the suasions of conventional wisdom, and the recognition that personal opinion is exactly that.

We all have our reasons for liking and disliking, and especially justifying, the expenditure of our hard won gains on our watches, but I find it hard to believe that either of you gentlemen, whom I have known for years and whose taste I respect tremendously, actually intend to suggest there is anything resembling an objective justification for the purchase of luxury objects in general, and watches in particular.

Cheerio,

Jack

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I promise to relook at the Opus 8, as a potential customer.

 
By: bernard cheong : July 16th, 2008-00:50
For what it is worth...I have been thinking that to own one, may just add a certain "completeness" to my collection. In fact, it may boost my collection's carnival status...I mean this in the most positive light! So far, the team has been working on an ev...  

You've got to be kidding me Bernard...

 
By: mkt33 : July 16th, 2008-09:06
There are many other selections out there that could complete your collection and still add "color". You know in medicine sometimes we have to trust our instincts... Your initial instincts were so strong that I somehow doubt this would be what you spend y... 

Here's why...

 
By: bernard cheong : July 16th, 2008-17:29
I had a tad more conversation with many watch people, mostly industry. I would reveal that 8 out of 9 hate the watch, and are not "with" it. But you know...I am that kind of guy that just because 1 man...and that man is from Harry Winston, but not a part ... 

Yes, one of the most ambiguous watches of this year

 
By: VadimT : July 16th, 2008-09:21
On my vision, the main difficulties with aesthetic of watches such “digital” and “modern sci-fi” type is harmonization of asymmetrical design, what usually deals with complexity and size of mechanics. Last time I also thought about sci-fi design. And only... 

I do love this watch and .......

 
By: CL : July 21st, 2008-20:19
I really hope it is price of URWERK 103 or MB&F 2 But as for Bernard, I do see this piece fits perfectly in your collection. Lovesss*CL

As doctors, we have 4 truisms

 
By: MTF : July 24th, 2008-13:36
1) When you hear bird-song, it is more likely to be a sparrow than a nightingale. (i.e. common things happen commonly) 2) If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck and smells like a duck-shit -- then duck shit it is! (no explanation needed) 3) KISS (kee... 

My dear MTF and Dr. Cheong. . .

 
By: Jack Forster : July 26th, 2008-21:15
. . . I have as you can imagine followed this thread with some interest, and without expressing an opinion on the watch, I can't quite credit that you genuinely think an anecdotal reportage of 8 out of 10 'not being with it' (whatever that means) constitu... 

No comment on Opus 8

 
By: MTF : July 27th, 2008-19:10
Dear Jack, Appreciate your points. My comments were NOT directed at the Opus 8 because that is already old news and as you said - commentary on subjective "liking" of a "design" is a futile exercise. My commentary was about Bernard going against his advis... 

You make some excellent points unquestionably. . .

 
By: Jack Forster : July 28th, 2008-19:55
. . . I assumed, I admit, that Bernard was being rhetorical rather than literal when he said 8 out of nine surveyed disliked the watch (and my experience too has been that it is far from universally admired in some quarters, I have heard some disappointed... 

my suggestion is ...

 
By: raphmeister : July 28th, 2008-05:53
not to jump on this one Bernard. keep the dosh for something more worthy.. there are of course many more watches to come and this is a forgettable blip in horology .. and at that price... 'what were they smoking?' cheers raph

yes but what if

 
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : July 29th, 2008-00:57
someone let's just for the sake of discussion say Bernard .0) one day owns all Opus pieces except 8 tormenting in the horizon just my 2HRK so my decision would be to buy even that piece I dislike just to have whole Opus collection Best

Biggest disappointment in OPUSs, well the only one as well...

 
By: Steyr : August 5th, 2008-06:46
Yes, I loved every of the OPUS up to the 7. Of course, some more than others, but I allways appreciateted their originality as well as technical nature. This one surely has the originality, but they might have gone slightly too far in taking some rough ea...