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“Horological” watch choice
Please help me pick my first horological watch. I have alot of mechanical watches but mostly in the mass market genre like Tudor, IWC, panerai. The most horological pieces in the collection are a rolex Cellini 5240 and Vacheron 12100 Toledo. Either the Breguet tradition 37 or JLC ultra thin skeletonized would be a capstone watch for me. I’m not an expert on hand finishing and I can’t tell an interior angle from an obtuse angle so please enlighten me.
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“Horological” watch choice
Please help me pick my first horological watch. I have alot of mechanical watches but mostly in the mass market genre like Tudor, IWC, panerai. The most horological pieces in the collection are a rolex Cellini 5240 and Vacheron 12100 Toledo. Either the Br...
I don't like "excessive" decoration, polishing.
Get the Breguet. With a Breguet La Tradition you are right at the place you want to be as a collector. And: the La Tradition is not a skeletonised watch! ☝️
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Ultra thin AND skeletonized is really pushing the limits. Watchmakers are not really comfortable playing with ultrathin since parts are trimmed down at the maximum making bridges and parts in general very soft. Skeletonized make this even more critical. B...
Many ways
You right at some point dear Count. I do also not prefer every skeleton out there. The skeleton Wowbattle2 post, the JLC is what i see from the picture a disaster. Even my own skeleton is softly said, a horrible watch. When i see some GP’s three bridges, ...
Between the two I'd probably choose the Breguet as well.
That's mostly based on the looks, and I'm also assuming the Breguet you would be getting new while this JLC model is older. However, I think the overall finishing on the JLC is greater considering the engraving+skeletonization. The Breguet has some nice f...
Rolex Cellini
For me also a mass market peace. Horological? Than Romain Gauthier and Ferdinand Berthoud comes up. F.P. Journe aswell.
The Breguet.
The JLC is surely a work of art, craft and finishing, but its wearability seems very limited. The JLC is quite a dressy piece, possibly only apropos worn under a cuff and with more formal attire. The Breguet can do double-duty...dressy enough to wear in m...
Wearability
I didn’t see the jlc ultra thin skeletonized design as feminine before your post but I can see it now, it does look a bit dainty/delicate. The case is rated to 50m like all the master control series, which is pretty crazy for such a dainty looking watch. ...
To help you out with interior angles...
in the first picture there's a photo of a Philippe Dufour Simplicity movement. I circled in red all of the interior angles on the briges. Notice how sharp the crease created by the anglage is. In the second picture you'll find the movement that powers the...
Educational
Thank you for the comparison photos, i can see the difference because you circled the areas of interest but otherwise I would not be able to find the difference myself. Patek’s movement doesn’t seem to fare well under scrutiny. Is the patek movement more ...
The ranking would be as you said, the most industrial being the Rolex and the most artisanal being the Dufour.
Patek uses a combination of machine and hand finishing. Not all of their watches are decorated to the same standard. You'll find some grand complications from the brand that are exquisite in their execution of the finishing, but that same attention isn't ...
PM Sent. Hope you do some more research on your own!
Researching more about what interests you on horology is even more enlightening and rewarding than asking for enlightenment! The French language can be a little confusing; all watches are "horological" as the word "horological" simply means anything relat...
Thank you
Sincere thanks for the personal note. If haute holigerie means artisanal handicraft in watchmaking with a watchmaker at a workbench using tiny tools to do stuff to tiny parts, that’s the term I’m looking for. For this capstone watch I’m looking for someth...