Marc Obermann
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Anyone else noticed "Nero" around the Watches and Wonders stands playing some beautiful music!!
Marc
So... 2026... $60k for mass-produced watches, $100k for a basic handcrafted horology, and $400k for something.......
We live in interesting times. To be fair, we know currencies are rubbish, getting worth-less by the minute. Got gold? ...
Really? Maybe the 1920a and 1930s cars, the VERY old guys want those. The affluent crypto/tech/finance bro kids want their 1980s cars so those are going for big $$$ now. The market is crazy for Pokémon cards, too.
Guess the 1970s Trilogy Old Guys are now completely out-of-date with modern times. Even Rolex knows "A new century begins." We live in AWESOMELY interesting times. Where new watch makers of every type are welcome, and the old brands must adapt or die.
+1
neo vintage all the rage, NSX, GTRs, Evos even Subbies going for crazy prices, makes no sense at all but hey, as long as it keeps some mechanics in business!
Yup, and i have to admit Rolex's "A New Century Begins" is very appropriate. We all know it's here, even us old farts like me.
And, frankly, i find it VERY refreshing! New blood, fresh faces... youthful exuberance! They also know how to live stream and truly have fun while doing it. AHCI needs that ASAP IMHO. PS: Best racing weekend this past weekend was the Freedom 500, right by...
The used market needs you. You have your place, too.
Just like watching old people talk about proper attire / timepieces for ceremonial gatherings (black tie, weddings, fashion, etc). Out of date, perhaps, but nice to see some following those old traditions. Maybe pockets watches will one day be popular aga...
Don’t quite think that pocket watches will make a return…
But wait - they already have - and are called a mobile phone 😉😂
LOL, yes, true, tho using a cell phone isn't flexing or considered eccentric / eclectic. Pocketwatch guys can wear out-of-style vintage luxury clothes, rings on all fingers, etc,
Smoking a pipe or having a mustache with handlebars is optional.
Swiss watch industry is in deep trouble due to very high prices for their products.
Their answer to this : increase prices 🫡😵😵
Imho, horology is doing the very best it ever has! We have the widest variety of 'brands', plus talented watch makers, and DIY'ers, offering the most qty of different timepieces in the history of watches..
From cheap knock-offs and new Asian creations to British, Danish, French, Singapore, of course Germany.... Frankly, a Longines for $2000 is a lot of timepiece, or DIY it for a few hundred. For those who truly value talented watch makers creating artistic ...
I just scrolled some new releases from W&W and among many well established brands the price tags are just crazy at a quality level that is unjustifiable. Many new small independants seem
to offer better value and quality than the big names now. Some new JLC’s perpetuals look like Frederic Constants, that imho look better, at three to four times the price.
Very frustrating...
...I am doing OK as a retired guy, but I feel downright poor when it comes to watch prices...
If I look at the young watchmakers, they do all look like the same
Random elements Time only Anglage and black finishing Breguet numerals and hands Small counter From 60/70k Pretty boring and lame imho 😁
:) Perhaps, yet you do get far more watchmaker hours, and they have great talent too (not still in training or just out of school). Big Box Store Brands probably charge 2x to 4x the price per watchmaker hour due to corporate overhead.
Here's a great link to an article that discusses watchmaker hours. watchesbysjx.com
Sorry, I don't understand: it is all simply due to general inflation, nothing to blame the watch industry for.
The next inflation shock is also comming soon, which is purely caused by "politics" this time and not corona.
True! Though I prefer the term "Currency Devalution " instead of Inflation. Plus the Swiss DE-value their currency, too, so their currency is just as worth less.
Perhaps prices should be in Gold, like early watch making In 10 years, $1,000,000 Swiss Franc could be the average for a RR, FPJ, etc. We know machines are obviously winning over the human touch, but pricing doesn't reflect that imho.