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I've thought a lot about it......

 

Hello, Mitch,

to me it's not that much a question of wether it would be in line with a true PuristS heritage  to buy or not - what could  be more "pure"  than buying
what you really like?
I've to admit, the finally availlable watch though doesn't appeal to me personally. While there are certainly many points to admire, as others already pointed out,
following an initial concept except all the difficulties  alone deserves a lot of respect.
I'm all for  "out of the box" solutions and approaches - many strokes of genious wouldn't have seen the light otherwise. I've trouble to respect designs
which are obviously following the "creating new solutions for the sake of beeing different" path. If that would lead to a final product with same functionallity,
but revolutionary looks- fine, not that appealing to me, but I could accept this. In case of the V4, I don't believe  this is the case....at least I can't see it.
Technically,  to my understanding none of the old novelties do make any sense - again, my personal oppinion. I believe no engineer would choose teethed belts
for this application (limited space and size - very low, uni directional forces - required total  gear ratio with as fe as possible "steps".....- already nicely sealed environment..).  Same with the linear oscillating winding - old concept, undoubtedly failed and surpassed by other designs - I could understand when reborn with
substantial changes - which here isn't the case (at least what I could gather). The sheer weight (mass) tells a story of inefficiency ......

All above of course strictly personal oppinion - to sum up, to me it's simply not exciting enough.....

Best regards
Suitbert

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Although I remain true to my Purist heritage - Tag Heuer?

 
By: Mitch K : December 21st, 2009-23:26
Greetings to all, As I remain a dyed in the wool Purists, I hope that I am not straying from the path by admitting that I have been thinking about the Tag Monaco V4. I am actually going to see it in the next day or two. I was wondering if anyone has had t... 

You're a brave man, Mitch.

 
By: mkvc : December 21st, 2009-23:33
If it works it is an interesting concept. I tend not to prefer innovation unless it also improves functionality, and I have not seen it demonstrated that the V4 design will do so. That doesn't mean it won't; I haven't really looked into the matter. In any... 

I've even tested it, Mitch.

 
By: amanico : December 21st, 2009-23:44
If you do a search on this forum, you will get the link. I was very pleased by this watch, really. 2 cons, to me: - The price tag ( sorry for the bad pun ). - The engraved Tag Heuer on the bezel, which wasn't necessary, and which is too much, IMO. A quest... 

Fondly Remembering Your Post...

 
By: patrick_y : December 22nd, 2009-00:24
Here's the link home.watchprosite.com That was an impressive Tag Heuer. Unfortunately, the price tag was also very impressive.

Well said Nicholas, for me there is no down side to having the weight labeled.

 
By: Mitch K : December 23rd, 2009-11:33
Plenty of watches have the companies logo or name on the rotor, some more "in your face" than others. The reliability is a big question and I do intend to find out how they intend to stand behind the watch. I think that the use of experts outside of the h... 

"Pursuing perfection in an imperfect world."

 
By: dxboon : December 21st, 2009-23:53
Isn't that what innovation is all about? Seems to be in line with our PuristS' credo. Even if this Tag concept watch doesn't go anywhere in terms of enhancing movement longevity or discernible functional improvement, I admire the fact that Tag is taking t... 

i would buy it in a flash if i could.

 
By: G99 : December 22nd, 2009-03:16
i'm a big fan of technical innovation and it the V4 is one that has appealed to me since i first saw its concept. the Cabestan is another i would jump on if money were not a problem. so if you can and you like the innovation go for it. best Graham

Graham, isn't that always the case. If money wasn't an option would you go for the V4

 
By: Mitch K : December 23rd, 2009-11:24
or something else? It's like playing the lottery. You know that you are not going to win but for a moment it does let you while away some time thinking about what you would do if you did win and had the money to spend. Mitch

i know what you mean...

 
By: G99 : December 23rd, 2009-11:32
i know what you mean Mitch, there's never enough dosh to fill the wishlist and if there was would we appreciate the watches? i think not, we need to save and work towards something to truly appreciate it. when the welsh couple won £45mil on euro lott... 

Well put, Daos

 
By: BDLJ : December 22nd, 2009-14:53
...I have misgivings about the counterweight and the belts, but I have to admire their efforts and for persevering with something different. As for whether TAG-Heuer is "purist" or not, if you like it, that's reason enough, regardless of brand.

:-)

 
By: dxboon : December 22nd, 2009-22:04
I'll be curious to see what Mitch thinks of the watch in the metal. Merry Christmas to you! Cheers, Daos

difficult one to answer Ronald....

 
By: G99 : December 22nd, 2009-05:15
difficult one to answer Ronald. i see your point as its not a 'pure' mechanical watch, its an innovative and ground breaking design so you could be right, but if we all stuck to totally 'pure' watches we'd all own handwind time only pieces which would be ... 

I don't believe so...

 
By: pingtsai : December 22nd, 2009-10:40
AT's first watch purchase that he made with his first pay check was a Tag and it started what will be a life long passion for sure. I still have my old plastic Swatch.

Same here..

 
By: mtvandi : December 22nd, 2009-17:17
Same here. with my first good watch being a TAG and my second....oh and my third. My choice was driven by the brands huge presence in cycling, but later I became more intrigued by mechanicals and it has been a great ride since, maybe even an obsession. I ... 

If you like it, go for it...

 
By: DonCorson : December 22nd, 2009-13:01
is there anything in being a Purist that says one may not be inquisitive ? You will help testing a concept that still has to prove itself. TAG may have some dubious policies, being the company that has made the most noise against tightening up the "Swiss ... 

Hi Don, looking is not necessarily translated to buy but.....

 
By: Mitch K : December 23rd, 2009-11:20
I am interested in seeing the watch and will see it later today. If the belt drive system does truly work and does have a lifespan that is acceptable, it has got me thinking about another use. I would like to consider its use in a certain complication tha... 

At the risk of being vocal

 
By: jkingston : December 22nd, 2009-16:22
Hi Mitch: Here is pure opinion. It is personal and everyone is free to contradict it. This is a brand that uses Tiger Woods as a spokesperson. Says it all. Jeff

It's a bit harsh, Jeff

 
By: amanico : December 22nd, 2009-22:25
Everybody loved and admired Tiger Wood before the last events... Best, Nicolas.

Right, there is always a risk when using living 'brand ambassadors'...

 
By: Ornatus-Mundi : December 23rd, 2009-01:24
you never know whether there are any 'dead bodies in their cellar' (as a German proverb says). After all, they are humans like we are. Since I doubt that TAG (or any brand for this matter) knew this when they contracted him, we have to give them benefit o... 

Wow, you actually buy ...

 
By: cen@jkt : December 23rd, 2009-07:41
or don't buy a watch due to a certain endorser? Wow! Marketing works!!! I shouldn't sell my marketing 101 text book cen@jkt

Hi Jeff - I must say that my eyes fog over when I read about

 
By: Mitch K : December 23rd, 2009-11:13
any watch company's flirtation with the glamor set. I wish that in this time of economic distress and elavating watch prices, maybe the watch companies could lower the end price by lowering overhead such as not paying off the "beautiful people" for the us... 

I've thought a lot about it......

 
By: SuitbertW : December 23rd, 2009-02:36
Hello, Mitch, to me it's not that much a question of wether it would be in line with a true PuristS heritage to buy or not - what could be more "pure" than buying what you really like? I've to admit, the finally availlable watch though doesn't appeal to m...