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Does Rexhep still have most components manufactured externally and just designed, assembled in-house?
I have gone past the atelier a number of times and it’s a wonderful location in old town. Making 35 watches a year to KV 40-50 is not a huge difference on scarcity. If you want to go micro I think it’s nice to be able to put a little bit of what u want into the mix. The Vingt 8 is produced the most but you can add whatever you want (within reason) and KV will make whatever you want if you have the deep pockets. At one stage we even discussed a world timer....the 28ti is fantastic
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Kari or Akrivia?
Asking for the most common but most valuable of things - opinions. Have the opportunity to get either a Kari Voutilainen or Rexhep ak-06. Which do I get? Unacceptable answers - "both", "whichever you like best." Criteria: / example of artisan watchmaker /...
Kari.
Just ordered a second! As a side light Kari is a gentleman, easy to work with and very responsive.
I admire both...
...and can only add that they are different creations. But I do know that Rexhep is a very nice guy and humble with nothing to be humble about : )
Difficult question to answer
But I’ll give you my perspective, for what it’s worth, since you’re asking for opinions. I’ve been following these watchmakers for some time and am also interested in both of them. I find the AK-06 to be a very polarizing watch, and that’s largely due to ...
I would go for Kari
as the dial options are almost limitless whereas with the AK-06, one would have a choice of two dials. Also the dial of the AK-06 is more niche as lovely as it is. For the record, I too have been considering the AK-06 against a Vingt 8 and the latter make...
If you're split, I'd choose based on whatever adds the most diversity in your collection
Really a tough choice between these two otherwise, and it's hard to declare one a winner on finishing. This would also be an interesting choice if you were considering the open dial Vingt-8.
I am biased but has to be KV. The options you have to bespoke your watch is infinite. However the boys are
Developing a strong following with the result that preowned prices may be stronger
My Top 5
1) Vianney Halter: The Classic is too amazing but so is anything ever made by him 2) C.Klings: His Watches and his movements take my breath away 3) JB Viot: Hand Made Art Nouveau Specialness 4) Ludovic Ballouard: Under Rated Brilliance 5) Christiaan Van D...
Christian Klings
Is my favorite contemporary watchmaker. I would sell my entire collection to have one of his pieces. I wish he replied to my emails!
Mine too!
I think the only way now is to show up on his doorstep and ring the bell ) S
Interesting and wonderful dilemma
Hi! I have just been in a similar dilemma and I ended up pulled the trigger on a Kari so the following is of course biased, but so are all opinions I guess ;-) I have visited the Akrivia workshop, talked to Rexhep and seen and handled his pieces. They are...
Which KV? Some pictures would help. I recently saw a RR in the metal, and I was in awe in terms of finishings level. Both are great watchmakers, so it is not a criterion for me.
I think the main criterion is the " special " against conventional. Here, the RR wins. And it is hard to compare a KV 28 for example, with the AK 06 which is a Tourbillon. If you are more into a classic watch ,go for the KV. If you are more into something...
It seems, I'm in the minority here. I'd actually go for the Akrivia.
Two reasons: I like the design of the Akrivia better. Never been much of a fan of the KV case and hands design. The Akrivia on the other hand is more special, not the typical round watch. The other reason is, that for the unqiue dials, I actually prefer a...
Mate I would like to take this discussion else where
But what do you find so special in the 1941 Remontoire ?
Everything.
It‘s got a story behind it with their father working on the city‘s church clock (which is a remontoire and they will show you it, if you pick up the watch at their place). Not many watches have a story nowadays. The movement has a perfect and extraordinar...
You made an excellent point on finishing
Thanks mate. Appreciated you giving me your thoughts
This is a dilemma but also easy to solve imho
For me these two are totally different watches based on the design of the case and dial . I also would love two own them both at some point in the future. For now i would go for a Akrivia because this watch would be almost impossible to find on a preowned...
I was asking the same thing last year, I went for AK06
Well... I was more after RRCC01 but after I played with a friend's one. I LOVE it, but it's too classic for me which is not what I want. The reason I want to get an indies is that I don't want to be "safe". After exchanged a few emails with Rexhep, I pull...
I can confirm that the AK-06 is still available
as per last week. A few pieces left according to Rexhep.
You got some very strong points there and also my thoughts too .
i do have a CC01 and hope to add a AK06 in the near future , like you i think the AK case design is the base of the brand . Also huge congrats with your AK . Hope to see your pics here as soon as its on your wrist
Both are extremely superb watches from extremely superb watchmakers
However I personally would go for the AK06 ( I just ordered one for myself) The design is just spectacular, the movement is so well designed and finished , and more rare than the KV
Not much really as Rexhep wants to maintain a consistency and minimum deviation
Of course if to be compared with Kari , KV wins in customization department
Kari is in most cases the same watch with a different dial, repeated hundreds of times.
While I understand your point, I tend to view it the same way a Mo, the AK-06 is far rarer a watch.
. 1 a KV is definitely a dream watch too but easier to find on a secondary market or to order one . Something i hope to do in the near future as well 🙏🏻
AK06 is definitely much more rare with only 50 pcs
Does Rexhep still have most components manufactured externally and just designed, assembled in-house?
I have gone past the atelier a number of times and it’s a wonderful location in old town. Making 35 watches a year to KV 40-50 is not a huge difference on scarcity. If you want to go micro I think it’s nice to be able to put a little bit of what u want in...
I believe so
But I wouldn’t use that as a criteria for deciding between these two. Kari uses a battalion of automated machinery to make the raw components for his watches. If you want something that’s made using old techniques, you have to look elsewhere like Haldiman...
He does....I think he mentioned he needs to manufacture 15 000 components annually for his 50
Watches and 7000 of them need to be individually heat treated so it’s quite a job. I have had the privilege of watching that poor sod black polish screw heads and I would certainly not have the same level of care as that individual on screw 675!! It’s sti...
Definitely the kv( but only because I want the cc from rexhep for myself
I definitely recommend the cc from akrivia
As much as I like the AK-06, I think we will see even better from Rexhepi in the future
If it were me, I would go with the more stylistically mature brand now and look at the developing brand in the future. But some would do the opposite and want to support the developing brand on its ascent.
Based on your criteria...
I’d go with Kari. This isn’t an easy decision. Rexhep will undoubtedly become a legend in horology and having one of his early pieces will go a long way. I vote for Kari because you can design the entire watch. He also will work with you and give you idea...
Thanks! Thank you for the photograph.
Perhaps someone can explain this...there are only 50 AK-06 models that will be made. There will be 25 titanium and 25 steel. What I’ve noticed is the dial variations. I’ve seen matte dials in a few colors (like the one pictured) and then the hand hammered...
As far as i know there are only two dial variations, grey and gold both hand hammered .
I think it looks different because of fotoshop .
This thread needs a picture,
So I found this on Instagram with the two most similar models imo. Seriously hard to choose between these two, but I would go KV! In this case the Voutilainen is made in far less examples. 26 in total. ...
I know this is not the answer you’re expecting
But you clearly do know both watches and makers have their merits. And while you pit one against the other, you’re gonna find it hard to determine a winner. Because the reality is that, they both are. Truth be told, I own a Kari Voutilainen. And I will pu...
Those that calls out more to be bought, is the one you want...
PuristS know my answer is Kari.