I longed for the FP Journe CB for the longest time. Wanted it so badly. Until one day... I go to see one of my ADs and he tells me... "What? Why do you like FP Journe so much? You do know that their watches are always problematic?". He then proceeded to tell me that everytime he sells one of the Octa lines that there will be an issue and that they would need to send the watch back to Journe. I digged around more as well, asking a famous Journe collector if he's experienced the same issues and he also told me that he had an issue with one of his Journes.before.