RayStantzPhD
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Try GP Laureato Skeleton...
... it's over 50.... Used in ceramic it's under 30k. That's the best ia/$ ratio I guess 
But this Biver is nice, fair enough. Style wise they looked probably a bit too long into the Grönefeld window, but that's up to personal taste. Execution seems to be top notch.
Cheers, Alex
New Biver Watch
I am a huge fan of JCB as an entrepreneur. His previous work was all really really cool. Wanted to love this brand from launch, but I feel like all the design including this new one is uninspired, and just feels super generic. They look well made, but the...
Well the dial is plain. I like that very much. Looks elegant.
The back, however shows the technical demand. Interesting.
I quite like these, too. You may want
to check out the limited edition dials on the Biver website. (I think I haven't seen any actual photographs of the LE ones yet.) Cheers Marc
So far haven't they been mostly expensive collectors items?
Meaning mostly locked away in a safe somewhere, never to be seen in the wild.
That movement is really something else!
The number of inward angles is just unbelievable. I don't think I've ever seen so many in a single watch, there are probably as many inward angles in this single piece that in all the Patek catalog, if not more. The only things I don't like are the "Biver...
Try GP Laureato Skeleton...
... it's over 50.... Used in ceramic it's under 30k. That's the best ia/$ ratio I guess But this Biver is nice, fair enough. Style wise they looked probably a bit too long into the Grönefeld window, but that's up to personal taste. Execution seems to be t...
I feel like you posted the most plain dial option here.
I'm not some super fan of the Biver's, but let's try to be a little open. There are several dial options and the rose gold ones are excellent, the pietersite for sure and as well the rose gold dial where simplicity complements the strong attention the gol...
I picked the first pic I saw.
To expand on my original post, I mean that there isn't really anything exciting going on here. Even Laurent Ferrier gives you an interesting escapement with a more unique design...
That's completely legit, a natural escapement is a big friggin' deal.
What would you say then is going on with a Dufour simplicity? I mean the movement there is acknowledged to be derivative of an older movement, generic Swiss Lever escapement. Don't get me wrong, I would love a Simplicity, but just to ask. I do think cohes...
Idk I don’t love that either.
I’d way rather have something like an invention piece from GF > Simplicity
Looking at their watches I think there is solid and well worked out strategy.
Come in big with something over the top, showcase your movement and quality and less about design (it's still there obviously), then the 2nd one with the special stone/dial and you couldn't see the actual time but you could hear it (correct me if I'm wron...
Agreed, but same question should be asked of others in the caregory with similar or higher prices!
Rexhep Rexhepi, Simon Brett, Remy Cools, etc. where are the call outs for these with twice the price point in some cases?
“Don’t you know I’m loco?”
I think they think we are all crazy really given where pricing (retail) has gone. But the Biver doesn’t seem out of line with others really.
Sometimes it’s better to call it a day 😉
Don’t want to judge the watch but retirement is a good thing for a reason 😁
This watch looks nice , the movement is beautiful imo. .
I think the gold one looks a bit better
Love the movement decoration, reminds me of the JLC reverso gyrotourb, but the dials are too restrained for me and while I appreciate the desire to avoid printing, the lasered chapter ring looks cheap 😐
The price is strong but not crazy. Decent wr, center seconds, bracelet and micro rotor make this a really interesting proposition for a supermax everyday watch.
I really like the case design
After seeing a few videos and clips of these watches I quite like the look of these watches, particularly the case design. One of the ADs I shop at recently became a dealer for Biver and I hope I get a chance to get hands-on with one of these at some poin...