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Well Clavi, the answer is not that evident ...
The GR TT 1931 Protos I saw in Geneva came with a ... plexy.
I asked about this point to several people, and I always got this answer.
I tested myself the watch, and I can confirm that it was a plexy.
BUT... There is a big BUT... The definitive watch may well come with a sapphire, as I was told later, hence I preferred to not state anything definitive on this matter.
Of course you're right in the distinction you made between the Deluxe and " Not Deluxe " Vintage Reversos.
Best,
Nicolas.
JLC SIHH 2011: The Grande Reverso Tribute to 1931.
You well know the history of the Reverso, so I will make it short. The history of the Reverso can be summed in 2 dates, and 3 men. - 1931: Cesar De Trey had the idea of a Reversible case for a watch. Alfred Chauvot concretized this idea through a patent h...
Why the difference between ...
the rose-gold and steel version for the 6 & 12 o'clock? To me the arabic 6 & 12 makes the rose-gold version less align with its predecessor, both in spirit and appearance. Thanks for your detailed report.
Actually, there was one early Reverso coming with this " 6 " " 12 " dial.
So,why not? It is a matter of choice, and to have seen them in the flesh several times during the " SIHH " and at the Paris Event, I must say that both re temtping choices. Now, some will certainly prefer the SS version, for its a tad more sober dial. A m...
Thanks for the input
and, yup, the ss version gets my vote. Looking to try it out at the local JLC boutique end next week, where the SIHH novelties would be showcased.
Again, thanks a lot Nico!
This watch is simply stunning and the price tag is attractive. Would you happen to have a wrist shot? I tried this Tribute in Geneva on my wrist and it felt really good. Your African-jungle-style-wrist is so well known here that one picture would tell eve...
No wrist shots, Kari...
I gave up taking wrist shots at the fair ... The blight conditions are so poor that I would delete, in my camera, all the WS taken. As for my Jungle Style Wrist, and as per this forum dignity, I decided to not post pics of it. There are some very young pe...
well - other contenders to come, as well, BUT..
- if the relation to the iconic Anniversary of the Reverso, THE JCL - identity possibly, yes, - if its also the appropriate "CONNECTION" of reaching up to us, ( on a purely personal note, though) paired with usabilty the Memovox DSA - Tributes 1959 could ...
One of the watches of the year, in my opinion.
Inside the JLC novelties, I also see the Tribute To DSA, and the Reverso Minute Repeater... I would also mention the Panerai Pam 372, and the Lange Saxonia UT. These are the 2011 Champions, in my opinion... Best, Nicolas.
"Most sought after watch of the year"?
Thats what my AD calls it thank you for this great report Nicholas regards Marwan
I will definitely put my hand on this!
Thank you for your detailed report. I am truly attracted by the SS version. White metal and black(ish) dial, baton index, 2 hands.... Very appropriate dress/business watch. I am glad it is NOT LE so that this can wait my bank account to be replenished NIC...
I understand your problem, Ken. I have 4 in my wish list, this year.
4 I saw during this SIHH. And among them, this TT 1931... In SS. Will see if I get it this year or next year. Best, Nicolas.
Not yet, but hey, I'm in a " Croatia Dreaming " mode. :)
Thanks for your nice thoughts and friendly support, Damjan. Best, Nicolas.
If there were any doubts before...
about buying this watch, you have dispelled them Nicolas. I want this watch. I need this watch. I must have this watch. I can't wait for it to arrive in store. Regards, Richard.
The first will and in April, Richard...
As i wrote, I needed to see it in the flesh to be definitively convinced, and yes, I am! Best, and thanks for your kind comments, Richard. Nicolas
YES, IT CAN - yes .. yes, again ! - merci Nicolas !
To top the expectations, to fulfill desires ? - YES it can Indeed, and you also, this with this enjoyable read again - even if we/many had a reasonable idea or even seen it already , KUDOS to you, again and THANKS for this post ! - - And this is just the ...
Tribute to the Watch, to the Community and ... To some values.
That sounds very good, hs. In the TT 1931 case, I would say both if them, son't you think? Tribute to some values, too: Class, Elegance, Timeless. As for the best occasions to wear it, they may be dressy or casual, as the watch can be pleasantly worn with...
How TRUE .. JOY for us, not the bankers..
Hence, all you expressed is " a point" (or is it "au point" ?) -- alas, my French "bumpy at times" ;-)... But relating, feeling with so many remarks here , and enjoying the pics - very well made, even what the "String within " is telling in return, Thanks...
I am starting to have doubts
Should I not get this watch??? Rose gold of SS just adds to the complexity of the situation. great, great post, gives a lots of food for thought. Reagrds, George
The good thing is that you have the time to make your mind, George.
as the SS TT 1931 is not limited. Go for your prirorities, first, then you'll get this one. What I fear with the TT 1931 is that as I own the 70eme, I will have to get a 60eme, too, to complete the Anniversary Reversos. Best, George. Nicolas.
That is a very good point.
Your right I'll take my time. I have other priorities. Best regards, George
Nico, one question...
..it may sound ignorant, any engraving on the reverse side of the dial? I was actually hoping that at least the SS version or the rose gold version are offered with non-reflective sapphire crystal rather than plexiglas, i know for Purists, the plexiglas w...
This is saphire, not plexy
The original Reverso 1931 came in 2 versions, including the 'deluxe' one which was one of the first watches at the time to be fitted with a Sahire glass. (standard was organic acrylic + unadjusted movement, deluxe was saphire and 15 jewels adjusted mvt). ...
Well Clavi, the answer is not that evident ...
The GR TT 1931 Protos I saw in Geneva came with a ... plexy. I asked about this point to several people, and I always got this answer. I tested myself the watch, and I can confirm that it was a plexy. BUT... There is a big BUT... The definitive watch may ...
Both options would be 'right', but only one would be logical
Indeed, the tribute could have both the plexy or the saphire, and still be consistent with the original (standard or deluxe). As much as I think it is important to have a plexy for the re-editions of the polaris or the Deep Sea (because domed plexy has a ...
My apologies, Nico wrote the following...
.........." In both versions, you'll have a plexy glass, which adds to the charm of this Reverso...." Not sure if i read wrongly but thx for the clarification. From their website, it also says "1000 Hours Control symbol on the caseback". Looks interesting...
Yes, because the plexy glass was installed on the protos.
But AFTER the SIHH? I heard that things may change... Case back on a Reverso: The back of the carriage, not of the case. Best, Nicolas.
Defenitely a pleasant read for any lover of Reverso. One French question...
...if we had the Soixantieme and the Septantieme ten and twenty years ago. Does it make the Tribute we are having the Huitantieme, whether or not JLC call it so? Since there is no other Reverso more special to come out for this anniversary? And, of course...
Belgians and Swiss say Septantième and Nonantième while French say
Soixante dixième and Quatrevingt dixième. But French, Swiss and Belgians will all say " Quatre vingtième ". It seems that the TT 1931 will come with a sapphire glass, as the plexy on the protos may well be changed on the definitive watches... Best, and th...
When you think you know, you know nothing.. I thought that 80eme was ...
Quatre vingtième, in Swiss... Not really. I've just been told that in correct and traditional Swiss, it must be said " Huitantième ". Best, Nicolas.
Great write up of an Iconic tribute
This piece grabbed my wife's heart when we saw it a few weeks back at JLC BHB. Elegant yet sporty and gracefully updated for the 80 year anniversary. My wife is not much of a gold person and we both love the understated style of the SS. A must have for th...
Thanks for your kind comments, my friend. Much appreciated. [nt]
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What a great report Nico...
pure class and a beautiful re-edition but in a more modern size which will work for either male or female wrists. If I had a partner I might be tempted to get one for her so I could wear it too.. For me the black face is a stunner...how hard is it to get ...
An authentic original is pretty hard to find, Andy.
The original is a MUST HAVE, the Tribute is a MUST GET. That is what I expect from JLC. Best, Nicolas.
Thank you for an excellent report and analysis
Of this watch Nic.it is, as someone wrote,watch of the year. I look forward to seeing it live and I'm fairly shure I'll be getting one. Is it already on display at jlc in Paris? I will be in Paris mid April. I attended a JLC dinner in Copenhagen last week...
To not put " JLC " on the dial is a brilliant idea.
Everybody knows that is a JLC. JLC knows that this watch is so famous that having just " Reverso " on the dial is enough, chic and Historic, too. As for the availabilty of the first pieces, April is clearly a goal, JLC is doing all they can for that. If y...
Well, I'already in trouble with the PG Email Reverso.
The mere fact that I, with my really light complexion, am considering a PG watch should be a clear warning. But, now I must admit that I even have started to like the PG version of the tribute. The grain on the white dial which I have seen on some other p...
The white indexes were my concern, too.
That is why I wanted to see the TT 1931 in the flesh. My doubts have gone, to let place to a conviction: I must get one. What kind of delicious dilemmas we have, Rick. Best, Nicolas.
impressive post
Thanks for this amazing post Nicolas, I never stop learning with your post. Cheers, Fernando
What a fantastic post, Nicolas! :)
And from what it looks – a fantastic watch! I am so happy that JLC choose to make exact this tribute! Don’t know if you recall, but almost a year ago I told you that one of my dreams is to have an original Reverso with black dial with only the “Reverso” o...
Ehh, Blomman .. Again doubling up ? ..
I truly can relate to such a Double .. - Nevertheless, for my part as well, I'll start with this magnificent SS- version, so pure and - well , how did Nicolas phrase it, - " timeless" . - Yes, exactly that. But then , " .. weapon oneself against a sea of ...
This is the kind of illness which doesn't need to be cured, my friend.
Having the original and the Tribute is an excellent idea for any JLC Fan. I will get this new bird as soon as possible, as I need to re build my collection, a bit. Luckily, this is not the most expensive one to hunt. And it will change you from your usual...
He, he… No we don’t need…
Any cure for this madness! But I must confess that I was hoping that JLC would disappoint us (not really but a little) this year. Because if so – it would have been easier for me to stay focused on Memovox… Now when JLC has fulfilled my wettest Reverso dr...
Thank you for this great report
Nicolas, congratulations for your excellent review! You perfectly highlight the interest of the watch and I share your conclusion: The TT 1931 is a brillant tribute because it combines: - the respect of the original in many aspects. In addition to the nic...
These were much more than details,Marv.
There are Key points, for me. Now, I had to see it in the flesh, to be sure. And, as you, I'm convinced. More, I'm in love with it. Thanks for your nice words, Marv. Best, Nicolas.
Very, very nice article and some amazingly artful
Photographs. Thank you sir! I needed a great watch read today and you made it possible. Best to all, Tim
This is definitely a good year to be single and not have a college fund...
to think about Man, that RG Tribute is nice. 11500 Eur is not a bad deal. Moreso the SS Tribute. What can I say, another great move from JLC. Great that you also showed us the Polaris tribute for perspective. I like it that JLC is very careful with their ...
What you're saying about the Tributes may be a very interesting debate.
Their 3 Tribute watches are, in my point of view, 3 great watches. The Polaris was the pionner, then the 2 other " sisters " came this year. With the TT 1931, things were not that " easy " than with the 2 others; as the size was very small, to re edit in ...
Wow...
looking forward to it... maybe we can start with how JLC handled it, calling it "tribute" rather than "re-edition". a re-edition would've boxed them in pretty tight. tribute gives them leeway to play around... and sends us a subtle message that the origin...
Well, I see thje Polaris and the Deep Sea Alarm more like Re Edition.
And the Reverso more like a Tribute, because on this last one, they played on the size of the case. Well, they slightly played on the size of the DSA, too ( 1 mm more ), but it is hardly noticeable. But they also kept in mind that the original is the orig...
Thanks very much for your detail analysis and pics
I think I need to try both on to experience them! Best regards, Baxter
Nothing can replace the " in the real " experience, my friend.
You have to try it, you will have a great moment! Best, Nicolas.
strangely, I love the watch but like the silver dial with romans...
am I nuts?, probably , but its the one I would want not the black dial i know..send me to the institution.. Imran
Nuts you are, but do we have to complain about that.
Don't tell me you're preparing some devilsh photoshop essays... Best, Nicolas.
YES YES... will try it on my wrist very soon...
... the preview to here will be coming very soon... can share and tell what feel with these TT1931 after trying it on my wrist. but one thing quite true is that the dials look very awesome to among collectors here... every time we met, this TT1931 has bee...
Three Reversos with different sizes?
With the TT 1931, you will have the Dalton Brothers! You'll also have 4 different and complenetary dials, Stefan. Can't wait to see your family pic, and don't forget: from the smaller to the bigger! Best, Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico o...
Beautifully written post !
I'm actually curious about the reverso.. As I recall, I remember Patek Philippe also have something similar to the Reverso. Do you know any story behind it? But again, a beautifully written post, can only be written by someone passionate about this brand ...
PP, VC, Cartier, they all had a Reverso at this moment.
Thanks for your nice words, Sam. Yes, trying it is adopting it. You will fall in love with the great harmony of the case and its irresistible volume. Let us know! Best, Nicolas.
I've never seen the VC one...
But i've seen the one by Cartier. And from my observation and my knowledge, the one by Cartier has different reversing mechanism. But the one by PP looks exactly the same with JLC's reverso. Was it a kind of trend a that time? Or could it possibly that PP...
A pity indeed
It’s still amazing to have the write up. Now 13 years on - still desirable and still a classic