Officine Panerai

Bruno, I love this discussion

Angelus was a true Historical movement used in the Vintage Panerai..Its interest is not horlogical, but historic.

As for the pre v, you're right, I'd say that the 203/A is around 2 times the price of a 322.

BUT, the fine point with the pre vendome pieces is that they belong to the past, and that Panerai Vendome can't re edit these watches.

These are true pieces of History too, the history of a brand that wasn't touched by marketting, in 1993.

The brand has that " courage" to launch pieces that, at this time, seemed not wearable for everybody, that were criticized by many people, as too big, and even sometimes, qualified as too ugly...LOL

Are you sure Panerai won't do any OOR of these 322 as they did for the 217/ 127?
Don't you think that Panerai didn't value their 322 knowing that people is nowadays completely crazy about a 217/127?
Don't you think that Panerai plays too much the card of the marketting against the true collectors we are, the passionate and watchnuts we are?

Another example, look at theRads with some nice horologiacla movements, like the 163, the Chezard movment etc...
Did you see the value of these watches hitting, rocketting the sky?
NO!

And as for the 322, I'd for one prefer to see the Minerva not reworked by Panerai, as in the Ferrari Bling Bling...

My 2 old French Francs, of course, my ffriend from the " Haut Quievrain"...LOL
Best.
Nicolas

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Asi's post got me thinking..If 309 and 322 were the last PAMs with Minerva mvmt...

By: davilo : April 14th, 2008-12:37

would those models be more desirable to the Panerai collecting community? I've heard mixed comments of the pricing and value, connection with history, etc. But wondering what other's feelings are if Panerai did come out with a news release saying that 322...

I love them

By: Bruno.M1 : April 14th, 2008-12:55

Yep, but don't see the historical link

By: amanico : April 14th, 2008-12:57

Between Minerva and Panerai execpt maybe for some tools like the curvimeter which is equipped with a Minerva movement... And the price, my friend, the price... When you think that an Angelus 8 days was under this price on the catalogue price, I mean... Ad...

But Nicolas

By: Bruno.M1 : April 14th, 2008-13:24

"When you think that an Angelus 8 days was under this price on the catalogue price, I mean... Add some more few bucks, and you'll have the Logo pre v grail... Or save a lot of bucks and you'll get a Mare pre v..." That is exactly what I don't get. The Ang...

Setting aside that one movement may be superior to another movement as I am in no way qualified to make any comments or pass judgment. Why is a Chanel leather belt $800-1000 dollars when a similar looking belt is worth $50. They both hold up your pants. Y...

Imo, the 322 and 309 are unique on its own..

By: colantotte : April 14th, 2008-17:17

Price is subjective and probably marketed for a niche segment. With only 150 pcs produced, 100 pieces black dial and 50 pieces tobacco dial, 48mm case I suppose, these watches may have been spoken for. They are a class of its own with the gold ring surrou...

great points all...it's clear to me as a watch company like panerai

By: davilo : April 14th, 2008-18:14

and with their need to build the product, you can never go back and recreate the original 26, 301A, 201A (for example) in its original form and design. If that was done, that would signal Panerai is willing to manufacture to old spec and possibly risk dil...

The real question is

By: patrickh : April 14th, 2008-23:01

do you like them (with your heart and wallet), or love (with your heart only) them. The price is another issue. IMO, I always buy a watch I love. I hope to get one; regards, patrickh

Of Course, Patrick

By: amanico : April 14th, 2008-23:07

Buy what you like is the golden rule, but at this price I can get other cult watches...Like the Pam 7 white dial + the Bomba Pam 64, and I'll even still have some money for a 232! But if this 322 is your holy grail, its just perfcet...Go on it. It was jus...

the 322 is simple, nice, dressy

By: patrickh : April 14th, 2008-23:33

Nicely put, Bill.

By: amanico : April 17th, 2008-02:50

Another thought for the mix....

By: sclamb : April 15th, 2008-01:13

I am finding as I get more into the Panerai brand that it is becoming apparent that many people are buying Panerai watches, especially limited editions, as pure investments for trading. I am sure that most of the 322s will not see a wrist and will probabl...

Simon...I don't think it's entirely true about access to high demand models

By: davilo : April 16th, 2008-06:08

While many of tne new "high demand" models seem hard to buy at a ADl, I'm an example of one who found one of my "holy grail" panerais at the most impossible or unlikely time. I bought the 246 from an AD back in December after reading Anthony Tsai's review...