Omega - I think the location of 'Automatic' is OK

I think the location of 'Automatic' is OK

If I had to guess, I would say this watch is based on the cal 490 or 491.

These are the slightly uncommon sub-second variant of the much more common cal 500-505 calibres. I believe these were the first full rotor automatic calibres Omega made, and though the fashion of the time appears to have been mostly for sweep second watches, the cal 490/491 were still offered for those who wanted a sub-seconds watch.

This dial is from a watch of mine using the cal 490 which is definitely original - it has the same arrangement of the printing on the dial as yours.

I can't comment on the originality of the textured / structured finish on your dial. I have not seen one like it before, but that's not to say it is not original. Do you have any better pictures of the dial available ?

grumio

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Vintage Seamaster inscription... Where should it be?

By: barrioporteno : March 6th, 2011-07:05

I found the watch below on sale and I'm still awaiting references... Looking at the dial (which seems to have aged enough to be original) I was wondering whether the 'Automatic' inscription should be between the 'Omega' and 'Seamaster' inscriptions (as it...

Does the dial have...

By: mac_omega : March 6th, 2011-07:14

Hi, Does the dial have a "structure" as it looks so in the picture? IMO it could be original in this dial design... regards erich

Structure?

By: barrioporteno : March 6th, 2011-07:20

Thanks for your reply mac... What do you mean by 'structure'? This pic and a couple of others is as much as I have at the moment... Do you really think the dial is genuine?

I meant..

By: mac_omega : March 6th, 2011-08:00

Hi, By "structure" I meant a kind of pattern, like silk cloth has a pattern, a structure..., like a kind of guiloche pattern, (machined) Or is the dial totally smooth - it does not look so in the picture. Do you understand what I mean? erich

I think Erich meant texture of the dial

By: MSNWatch : March 6th, 2011-08:06

That dial looks original to me but of course to tell for sure, the photos have to be closer up and higher resolution.

Sometimes I miss...

By: mac_omega : March 6th, 2011-08:32

Hi Mike, thank you for helping my poor English... Sometimes I miss out a word and can´t remember... regards erich

SWISS?

By: p_savage6 : March 6th, 2011-08:45

Hi all also, underneath the 6 position, it seems to read just "SWISS" and not "SWISS MADE" - I dont think I have seen just SWISS before ? cheers, paul

"Swiss" is ok for watches headed to the US [nt]

By: MSNWatch : March 6th, 2011-08:52

No message body

What about this one...

By: tdn.dk : March 6th, 2011-09:00

No Swiss og Swiss made, but "Fab swisse" is it for some export market ? (it is a watch i have the possibility to buy, is it interresting and i wonder what movement there is in it?) Best Thomas...

Watches with "Fab. Suisse"...

By: gatorcpa : March 6th, 2011-10:26

...on the dial were generally exported to French speaking countries. Some soild gold versions had French-made cases. Hope this helps, gatorcpa

I think the location of 'Automatic' is OK

By: grumio : March 6th, 2011-19:49

If I had to guess, I would say this watch is based on the cal 490 or 491. These are the slightly uncommon sub-second variant of the much more common cal 500-505 calibres. I believe these were the first full rotor automatic calibres Omega made, and though ...

More pics...

By: barrioporteno : March 7th, 2011-07:14

Thanks for all your replies. I'm still waiting for case reference number and calibre... And whether the dial is textured as it seems from the pictures... Apparently the movement should be a bumper and if so probably btw 342 to 344... Will post as soon as ...