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Nice review
Nice review - the movement used in this watch is the industrialised version of the older Pf full-rotor automatic with the solid gold rotor (caliber designation escapes me now) This one comes with the steel rotor right?
Vaucher does indeed produce for PP - they make the quartz movements in the ladies watches.
As for Chopard, the 1.96 and 4.96 were designed by Michel and to an extent produced by Vaucher/Pf.
Many high-end brands (Lange for example) source components from the group - mainly from Atokalpa and Elwin but also LAB.
As for HW, the Pf701 movement in question is indeed used for the RM033, but altered with titanium bridges.
I can say that Vaucher currently makes for 17 brands, of which 4 brands take up virtually half their production. Many of the remaining brands prefer to keep their relationship with Vaucher confidential, for reasons that are beyond me considering the quality of their production.
And starting this year, a new brand from Singapore will be added to this list, making a total of 18 brands.
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Quick review: Parmigiani Kalpa Steel
This is a quick overview about the watch I've been searching for more than a year! All of us are in a constant quest for the grail(s), or onlywatch, but I would rather define this timepiece as a fits-for-all-occasions signature watch. (One might not wear ...
Neither PP nor Breguet ever used a Parmigiani/Vaucher movement
Parmigiani/Vaucher never ever ever produced a movement for PP, Chopard nor Breguet. You must be confusing hair spring and movement. Atokalpa (which also belongs to the group) produces apparently hair spring sfor PP and Chopard too. But this is not a confi...
OK, thanks for your reply
I should've written Richard Mille, Harry Winston and Hermés instead. I'll look after those articles, mainly written after visits at Vaucher in Fleurier, where this info came from. Of course little has been officialy confirmd. But would be also important t...
This is an interview with Michel Parmigiani
You're right, as for Chopard, production is not mentioned, just movement design. Vaucher is making movements for 15 brands, PP, Breguet are not among those, but for sure they provide for Hermés, Corum, RIchard Mille and Harry Winston. I've already seen m...
I think you can now remove HW as it was bought by SG...
In addition to your post it is also important to note that Parmigiani buys (and does therefore not produce itself) most of its complicated movements from Renaud Papi (AP) and Christophe Claret. Parmigiani often forget to mention this :) They even describe...
Swatch and HW
You just mentioned that HW was bought by the Swatch Group last year, sad news. But this is also giving more credentials for those, who remain independent. Isn't this sub forum all about them. What I really find fascinating about PARM is how they changed t...
Nice review
Nice review - the movement used in this watch is the industrialised version of the older Pf full-rotor automatic with the solid gold rotor (caliber designation escapes me now) This one comes with the steel rotor right? Vaucher does indeed produce for PP -...
THANK YOU BCHH
Now this is very clear now, at least as clear as this could be, with so many brands not revealing where components came from. You're right this comes with the skeletonized steel rotor, the solid golden rotor serves golden case models. While that golden ro...
de Owar, I know what you mean...
I know what you mean about brands not revealing where components came from.. I know all 17 brands that utilise Vaucher for production but obviously cannot reveal most of them apart from the disclosed ones like Hermes, RM, Corum (golden bridge) etc. Person...
Thank you again for the great insider info!
The term in-house, while being important, is totally overrated and misinterpreted. Great ébauches, with someone's own developments, personal additions can absolutely outperform an in-house movement and can add much more value, than using an unstable, unre...
I totally agree with you
I definitely prefer a real watchmaker who modifies and finishes an ebauche, rather than some fake in-house chicanery (a recent fiasco over a young brand's release comes to mind). Of the former category, watchmakers like Dirk Dornblueth and Pascal Coyon co...
Thank you!!
The case is very intriquing in the flash, as its curves are reflecting lights. I would discribe this case as a tonneau, but a very unique one.
That's the proper environment...
works particularly well with your shirt! Thanks for sharing, Magnus