Patek Philippe

I am looking for a vintage Calatrava 570G and I was hoping someone could help with an issue I have seen with the dials. Many have white / cream dials that are flat and plain. This is a good example (although very few are in this good condition): Byt there...  

He helped me with a vintage 3820r, which also had a great and extremely rare dial variation. Call Patek NYC, ask to speak with whomever they hired to replace David could be helpful.

Thank you. That's a good suggestion.

As you’re aware, the same watch dial can look dramatically different in different lighting, either highlighting or masking surface texture, color/tone, etc.

That’s a fair point. I was really trying to find out if that look was a well known issue eg a particular type of dial switch, or a particular type of “washing” that others knew to avoid.

To be honest, I think it is impossible to say anything reliable when judging only from photos. But based on your photos, my personal feeling which could be wrong it that the second and third dials are authentic whereas the first one looks like it isn’t… T... 

Your point on judging by photos is right. Almost all calatrava 570Gs have dials that look like 1 (but not as clean) which is why 2 and 3 raised concerns for me.

too clean to me. Have you compared with the many examples sold and displayed by John Nagayama on his website: https://onbehalf.jp/en/item/reference/570/ You could probably ask him for advice, either by mail (you can find his email address on his website) ... 

I have actually reached out to him. He’s incredibly helpful and for someone so knowledgeable also very generous with his time in answering questions.

small & center second type ...  

Thanks. That’s good to know.

Yes , John Nagayama in Tokyo is probably the world expert in these models Dials can be enamel - the letters not the dial itself ( before 1965 approx) or printed Enamelled letters are more desirable but much rarer . I think the different shades of the dial...  

Thanks Julian. They are truly beautiful pieces.

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Beautiful.

I believe that the dial of first watch that you pictured has a printed signature while the second and third have the embossed enamel versions. To me, the embossed enamel dials have more depth and character to them.

I agree