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To be honest, I think it is impossible to say anything reliable when judging only from photos.
But based on your photos, my personal feeling which could be wrong it that the second and third dials are authentic whereas the first one looks like it isn’t…
The texture and the logo don’t feel right to me. But I’m no expert and, once again, I might be wrong.
Best, Emmanuel
Patek Philippe Calatrava 570G. Vintage Dials - Variation / Substituted dials?
I am looking for a vintage Calatrava 570G and I was hoping someone could help with an issue I have seen with the dials. Many have white / cream dials that are flat and plain. This is a good example (although very few are in this good condition): Byt there...
When Patek Philippe in New York wisely had David Jarred on staff, he would know. His knowledge was incredible!
He helped me with a vintage 3820r, which also had a great and extremely rare dial variation. Call Patek NYC, ask to speak with whomever they hired to replace David could be helpful.
Do you think it might just be the different lighting those photos were taken under?
As you’re aware, the same watch dial can look dramatically different in different lighting, either highlighting or masking surface texture, color/tone, etc.
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To be honest, I think it is impossible to say anything reliable when judging only from photos. But based on your photos, my personal feeling which could be wrong it that the second and third dials are authentic whereas the first one looks like it isn’t… T...
I see what you mean, but the dial of no. 1 looks
too clean to me. Have you compared with the many examples sold and displayed by John Nagayama on his website: https://onbehalf.jp/en/item/reference/570/ You could probably ask him for advice, either by mail (you can find his email address on his website) ...
I think all 3 pics are Ok.
Yes , John Nagayama in Tokyo is probably the world expert in these models Dials can be enamel - the letters not the dial itself ( before 1965 approx) or printed Enamelled letters are more desirable but much rarer . I think the different shades of the dial...
I actually prefer the second and third examples...
I believe that the dial of first watch that you pictured has a printed signature while the second and third have the embossed enamel versions. To me, the embossed enamel dials have more depth and character to them.