The 3970 had it's time in the spotlight, and now it's dimensions and thickness, plus small face, work against it. Still, at around $60k for the 3970G it might be worth a look. Any more than 60 and i'd pass. The 5170p might be the better long-term hold, if you can get it priced right (haven't bothered looking at prices, yet know the 3970RG third edition in mint condition fresh service sealed, orig box/papers trades hands for around $80k).