FRAMII
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Hi Kek
That is a very systematic and i would think a bit time consuming way of trying to find a number that only Patek knows 😋 Thanks for doing this exercise.
As I don’t sell any of my watches for me the number is not that important for me. As long as I enjoy the watch I do not care if its 800, 1000, 2000 produced.
Fram
5131 : Following Keks exampel lets do a Purists roll on 5131
I will start with my beloved 5131R: ...
Good idea for a post. Here are my...
G and P for a sibling rivalry to get wrist time ! ...
Thanks for your feedback ! The heft of the P feels amazing on the wrist, whereas the G has the...
most vibrant colors of the four enamel dials IMO
I can imagine the heft of the P, quite something
And I agree, to me the dial of the G with the white hands is to die for
Gorgeous! A nice exercise I'm doing as I look at this thread is to find the (usually many) differences on the dials of the same versions!
I believe we are already at 4R, 2P, 1G, and 1J, and each is truly a unique piece! ;-)
New Tally
If I’m correct we currently have: 5131J: 2 5131G: 1 5131R: 7 5131P: 3 Total:13
FRAMll wrote 13 it s a simple calculation :-) , actually i ve intended
as a joke , you know most owners considering the 31s extremely scarce which is not the case IMHO , it s definetly not common but much easier to find than let say a Simplicity .
ah,ok....
....yes, i assume that there are 200-400 of each metal or thereabouts...just an informed guess. Less 5131P at the moment but who knows if they continue producing for another year. Its rare but not that rare.
IDK , R was the shortest run but then they produce just that metal
in the J/G era was much longer but the artisan should supply both metals ,about figures i can just guessing .
I can only make a guess, of course, but I would also estimate the final 5131 production to be of 1k to 1.2k pieces...
And since we are guessing, this might also be the last year of the P, hence of the whole run...but who knows 😉
Hi Fab, your 1k to 1.2k is reasonable and IMO is likely on the higher end of the range. My guess is that..
the early years 2008/2009 likely took longer time to make the J as the artisans (I read in an article a team of 2 in the beginning) needed to get familiar with the production run (I heard a week for a dial on average - so 50 pieces a year). Later on I thi...
yes FRAM, there are many more PuristS 5131 owners, and I know several of them. One of them I helped to broker a deal for his 5131G but unfortunately this person is...
a lurker. I tried my best to encourage him to post but without success.
No way it takes a week to make a 5131 dial
Unless the person only works on it 20 minutes a day.
But....
Only one in ten dials were eventually used after quality control. Enamel is a very erratic substance so consistent results are hard.
I highly doubt that.
I have met several enamel artist after developing an interest in these kind of watches. They aren’t as difficult as these watch companies lead you to believe, they are all hyperbolic in their marketing pitches.
Another approach
Would be to look at what percentage of limited edition Patek are listed for sale on c24..... 5565 8 listed out of 300 or 2.7% 5275P 2 listed out of 175 or 1.1% 5975J 27 listed out of 400 or 6.8% 5975G 15 listed out of 400 or 3.8% 5975R 21 listed out of 40...
Hi Kek
That is a very systematic and i would think a bit time consuming way of trying to find a number that only Patek knows 😋 Thanks for doing this exercise. As I don’t sell any of my watches for me the number is not that important for me. As long as I enjoy th...
Just tried top down as opposed to bottoms up...
It is not so relevant to me how many were produced either... they are wonderful pieces and i enjoy mine tremendously regardless.
Thanks Keks for this well thought through analysis ! I wonder how closely the % of 5131 offered for sale follows the behavior of the various Limited Editions because...
the market knows exactly the numbers for LEs but not for 5131s which is a limited production reference. It would be interesting to understand whether more or less of the limited production piece 5131 are being sold vs limited editions.
well...
not in any ways conclusive as not all listings for sale are on c24 and some listings on c24 are duplicates or not always real. However if one takes 14 references perhaps some pattern appears for limited edition pieces. Now perhaps behavior for limited edi...
I would agree and also a patient man 😋
My question is where are the purist owners have to be many more owning a 5131
Well...
Given there is one for sale makes sample size a bit difficult to use reliably...there is also a 5070P London edition and that one was produced in lower quantity than the regular 5070P...
Easier....
Only produced for one year and Patek are on record as stating that no more than 250 5070s per year were made. So my guess is 150-250 were made in 5070p