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It's definitely true...
The friction part wasn't part of my consideration, but it's definitely true less surface area to rub on.
Great job researching it! Kudos!
Yes, definitely the hole itself has some curvature to it. Not the actual jewel in its entirety. I wasn't very clear about this. It's such a subtle point that is even forgotten by some watchmakers. Great job, I'm impressed you did this level of research on this topic!
My Favorite Patek Philippe Post In A While... W220's 240Q Macro Photos
A picture really is a thousand words. Looking at W220's magnificent, all-revealing post... Here you can admire a wonderful Patek Philippe 240Q Perpetual Calendar movement photographs. You can see the real truth of the Patek Philippe here, especially in r...
Totally speechless!
Amazing post , every detail is just masterpiece,thats why PP is holding top position. I still don’t own a Patek but in near future i will purchase one and will rock n roll with it! Thanks for sharing!
Nautilus
For my current age and situation it perfectly fit : One of these models: P.S: for the rose gold i need to work a little bit more ...
An amazingly informative post...
For the person who is very knowledgeable about finishing they will see all the extensive lengths Patek Philippe went to. For the most knowledgeable, they will even find areas of improvement! These photos can mean a lot to different people. Exquisite post....
Not sure how I missed the original post
but seldom if ever have I seen better taken photos of an iconic movement and watch. I am hoping that the 240Q in my 5940G will have a similar high level of craftsmanship. Photo borrowed from SJX as my watch remains in my dealer's safe! ...
Thanks Patrick!
Those raised Breguet numerals to me give the watch the added elegance.
The anglages could have been " sweeter ", more sensual, which I regret. For the rest, it is a very pleasant movement to look at.
Better, it is one of my favorite automatic movement, along with the GP Tourbillon with gold bridges automatic movement. As for the dial, the smaller font for the 27 is very smart. The dial is very nicely executed, but Patek is a master when it comes to di...
Fully agree
Most of components seem to be machined with a just a little or no hand finishing
There's some burnishing and hand finishing in there...
The steel gear teeth are somewhat polished, probably burnished with wood discs. It's overall a good effort. But, as you implied, room for improvement is possible.
I doubt it but I can be wrong
As far as I know PP makes 50-60 thousand watches a year while having several hundred watchmakers. That’s why I suppose none to little is done by hand. Still it is a nice watch
How many watchmakers does the company have and how many watches are made per year?
Answering this question helps understanding a lot.
You didn’t answer the question , you witnessed the manufacturing at the factory?
Or are you basing your view on assumptions
No. I witnessed the product.
I make my “assumptions” based on comparison with other watchmakers.
Well put...
I found it surprising that Patek Philippe used a 240 movement to drive so many watches too. And yet, I still applaud them for utilizing a layered construction (vs. an integrated construction) and yet still being able to achieve extremely thin watches. I d...
Wonderful (re)post with amazing pictures. Very helpful to have all these points explained but i am still left with these 2 questions :
1) is the `chatter` the small horizontal striping in the anglage ? 2) how are the Jewels òlived` , is that an oval shaped jewel and how is this better for retaining the oils ? Thanks for your time
Thank you Ron! I'm sure W220's ears are burning since we're chatting about his original post!
1. The "chatter" is indeed the small horizontal striping in the anglage. You are correct! 2. I'm not sure how the jewels are "olived" in their construction. The "olived" basically refers to the bezel that gives the jewels a cavity so the oil will hopefull...
Glad I was able to help...
I'm not sure I explained the jewels as well as I would've liked. I don't want to give the impression that there is a large amount of oil, but I think the shape is more so that the watchmaker has an easier and more accurate way of placing the oil.
Thanks to your explanation i knew what to google for to learn more, and found this explanation and diagram
An Olive holed (hole with radius) ring jewel offers lower friction. The radius surface of the hole provides minimum contact with the pivot. it seems the inside wall of the hole is curved , so less friction as there is less contact and more `room` for the ...
It's definitely true...
The friction part wasn't part of my consideration, but it's definitely true less surface area to rub on. Great job researching it! Kudos! Yes, definitely the hole itself has some curvature to it. Not the actual jewel in its entirety. I wasn't very clear a...
It's a fantastic post with impressive pictures 👏👏👏
It's a real pleasure to go through it again 😁
If I'm still thinking about it several months from now...
If I'm still thinking about this post several months from now... I might just have to repost this post again!
W220's photos are so good, they're becoming another reference point!
Every person who is looking at Patek Philippe timepieces should admire these photos. They show exactly how good/bad the finishing is on a Patek Philippe.