patrick_y
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Not a bad idea to upgrade the movements...
You propose a good idea.
However, consider the consequences of your idea...
When Patek Philippe does re-design their movements, they will quite likely find methods to reduce costs, especially designing parts that require less assembly and finishing time.
So, remember, there are always side effects that may be undesired. Be careful what you wish for...
Regarding the 5123, I think you should procure one. Your reason why you dislike it is unfounded. The 5123 has a case of 38mm. The movement has a diameter 21.9mm. If you look at traditional watchmaking, you will realize that the smallest diameter of case this watch could probably fit into is approximately 32-34mm. Generally, a watch needs at least 5-6mm of space for case and other empty space on the outside of the movement. You state the movement is "not much more than half the diameter of the case" and that the movement could "easily go into a 25mm womens' watch."
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Patek movements
It occurs to me that, while Patek is updating the sizes of many of their new 3-handed watches to close to 40mm, they have not updated the movements to match. Thus their HW/small seconds models have their seconds hands snugged up close to the center, looki...
I completely agree with you. However,...
from PP point of view making new cases and fitting them with old movements is a sure money maker. When people snap up PP even if it has a disproportional dial, there is no reason for PP to change its mode of operation. That is why there is a group of PP e...
Pateks getting boring
And I have basically lost all my interests for Pateks and turned my attention to independents.
I don't count Patek out yet.
Patek has a wonderfully beautiful caliber in their lineup, employed in their 980 series of hunter-style or Savonnette pocket watches. On their website they call it 'Caliber 17''' SAV PS'. At 17 lignes, it's just a hair over 38.5mm and 3.8mm thin. It would...
watch movements
are somewhat limited in size by the size of standard parts which has not changed since early wrist watches of 30mm cases. From there the goal was to go thin over the years and increase the power reserves beyond 24 hours. All this resulted in standardized ...
you have a point...
...but consider for a moment a comparison of 2 storied watchhouse, Patek and Vacheron. While Patek has chosen to recycle their time proved but diameter challanged cal. 215 as the powerplant for their Calatrava 5196, Vacheron has gone a different route ent...
photos
Actually there's some excellent photos now on the Vacheron Constantin forum on this same site for anyone who's interested. Easier than a google search.
Not a bad idea to upgrade the movements...
You propose a good idea. However, consider the consequences of your idea... When Patek Philippe does re-design their movements, they will quite likely find methods to reduce costs, especially designing parts that require less assembly and finishing time. ...