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Once more; this is market economy...
But let's look at the issue from another angle:
I guess that we all agree that these pieces do not lower the "value" of the old 5070.
Do the people who got one of these Special Edition 5070 complain? If not, what's the problem???
It is naive to cry about the prices. Bentley is asking € 5,950 plus VAT for the touring package of Bentayga (=a bit of additional electronics). It's my decision to take it or not. Patek's right is to do what they want with their inventory and price the same based supply vs. demand. I guess the demand was there. At least nobody came to me asking: "We have some extra London Edition watches. Would you like to get one?".
I expressed my strong interest directly to the management of Patek on the same moment we could see the watches. I said: "I would like to buy 5070P, if you sell me two, both P & G and if you want to sell me more, I take them all". I got a smile back and continued the discussion about the virtues of 5070 and 5370. That was the moment when I asked my "supplier" to join and told that "please put me to the list of 5370P". Still waiting but it will come...
Best, Kari
so we saw the almost unique 5070 salmon dial..... did you know there is one even more rare
The one from my friend Khalid is a dream. Very nice and VERY unique. As a huge 5070 fan I would give you a kidney for that watch made for the london saatchi expo but...... there is another one, also white gold and also a salmon dial but it has a few extra...
You mean this one?
I prefer the leaf shaped hands, but the dial is even nicer, according to my taste, than the " out of range " salmon one limited to 5 pieces. Except the luminous dots, which are too much, IMO. As for this article, I have no problem with it, since you are M...
yes
Yes, that one.... thanks for the picture Nico are there others? Don't know but if I find them I will put them on that blog too
not only this reference
If something is already very sought after, some clients just want a little extra thing like said, there are a few unique 5970 out there do you remember all thoses ultra high end grande complications from some time ago , a celestial, a skymoon a repeater.....
There are several things...
- Re editing pieces which were discontinued some 6 years ago is strange. - Pricing them twice the price of the current equivalent in the production is not a good message ( for the current production which is presented as a technical improvement ). - Makin...
Once more; this is market economy...
But let's look at the issue from another angle: I guess that we all agree that these pieces do not lower the "value" of the old 5070. Do the people who got one of these Special Edition 5070 complain? If not, what's the problem??? It is naive to cry about ...
Please, we are not going all over this again
Dear Nicolas, We already had this disccusion in the other post (and before) and, don't take it wrong, but I really find your interventions are partial. Everybody is free to express opinions of course but in each post you try to find the most negative thin...
Please read my last point about the Gyrotourbillon, you will see that I am not pleased, either...
It is not a problem of brand, but of behaviour, and yes, you have a point, Patek is not the only one to play this tricky game. Still, it is a tricky game. And a bit risky, too... Best, Nicolas
I must be nuts!
But this "tricky game" is something that makes a couple of loyal clients very happy. Furthermore, it creates discussion around the Brand and that must be partly intentional (also very clever) from the Brand's side. I am still willing to buy all four 5070 ...
Kari, if you are looking for the 4 different 5070
Why don't you just buy them? I don't think you can ask patek to make you an extra set but if you say you're willing to pay a premium...... You can find them on the secondhand market
Have you not noticed it yet?
Because I am a bit nuts! If possible, I like to get my watches new and at least complete with "open" Certificate of Origin. And if I find such, I send the watch for Patek's service for a full overhaul. But let's put it this way: I will surely have one wat...
Indeed mark...
... You are right, its good to have some animated debate, but always while trying to be fair and not mix everything, to paint a different picture than things really are. A special order for a special collector is totally different than the london 5 pcs ed...
Exactly!
You are not mentioning the strangest part in all that : They don\'t seem to learn from the mistakes of others! JLC is a perfect example of a cie that made zillion variations of its gyrotourbillon, even in 5 and 10 pieces with just color differences, blue,...
This is totally different... Special order
I know about it since a while, its a special order to a very special client. So basically a unique piece. There is the same version in another metal. There is unique 5004 and 5970. We are not in pandora box territory. These were not offered to public for ...
i remember seeing this one in the past (on pics of course)
The specific hands are very surprising and change the watch's look very much. I think I'll need time but currently I'm much more attracted by the 5070G Salmon from London. Thanks for reminding us of this very unique piece Bruno. Cheers, Mark
Do you want to have a picture of the dial?
I have a bad one I had an opportunity to take. The dial is indeed darker and the sun rays are somewhat stronger. Best, Kari
I managed
to take these two bad photos with my iPhone before anybody managed to say "no photos, please". Sorry for the rubbish quality but perhaps these help to give an idea. I was impressed. Best, Kari ...
I know and sorry for the scrappy pictures.
The moment when I could hold the watch for a short while was not the right one to start a photo session. Anyhow, I can assure you that the watch is bloody cool in metal. No, it's more than that! Best, Kari
Nice
But on these pics I see no difference compared to the other 5070p Depending on the light the 5070p Goes from dark to light blue
blue dials are tricky...
... they have a trick to make each blue dial unique. 5270G 5070P 5960P have all different tonalities of blue. 5070P london has apparently a blue never seen before. 5070P have sometimes tones of aubergine color, that i didn't find in other blue dials. 5270...
I would feel it is quite darker than the 5070P's I could see before.
I wonder how is the texture.
No no, I didn't express my self well!
I meant I didn't see any pictures of this version yet: yours are the first ones. And the result is that I find it gorgeous on pics and already imagine how it looked in the metal Cheers, Mark
That's one of the rare pics of the 5070P
let's wait to see if some owner will post a good outdoor shot where we can see the details of the blue dial
I take the kidney, where do I drop the watch?
The Feuilles Hands are my favourite, by far. However the dots instead of the gorgeous Breguet numbers are better suited for this chronograph. Looking forward to my new kidney Cheers Francois