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... with a little help from Cosmos! I had expressed in some previous posts here, my fondness for the Explorer model. Of the several references which have displayed the name “Explorer” on its dial, I had personally favored the reference 1016 as the most be...  

I never realize that theres honeycomb dial on a 6610. This is very rare indeed. I was on a hunt for the 6610 as well but got deviate after some minor "accident" Have you got a chance to look at the case back and serials? It will gives you more info about ... 

... Yes, in collecting, one piece you get, means you open your mind to another different one. Now my sights are aimed to finding a 1655. Regarding this 6610 Explorer I´m presenting here, it was made in 1956, as per serial number and inscription insid... 

Your story telling. I loved your excitement and the way you got the watch. Wear the watch in good health. Cheers Abel! J.

... I´m delighted to know you liked the writing, as I take great pleasure and enjoyment in writing these presentations. Thank you so much for your comment! Receive my best cordial regards, Abel.

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Always love reading your posts Abel, they always read like an adventure story! Makes me want to find a 1016, I think I'll go for a matte or an open chapter ring gilt!

... comment. You know, I´m very fond of writing, and enjoy so much making these presentations. So, I´m delighted to receive your comment, and know you enjoy the reading, as much as I take pleasure in writing them! Best cordial regards, Your frie... 

Nice photos, but both the 6350 and 6610 you show in this post have at best- refinished dials and at worst completely fake dials. Have they been represented to you as all original? If so, I would be very careful...

Would you be kind enough to state the evidence that prompt you to think this is refinish job or possible fake? At least our dear Abel know what to say to the dealer who sold him the watch. Thanks Regards Tyler

... amd your sympathy. Best cordial regards, Abel.

when making statements like that, you should elaborate. Never seen a honeycomb before on a 6610? Does that make it a fake? Well, of course not. I'd like to hear why you think the dial is not original. Elaborate please....

... on this issue which has been raised. You know, your past post about your own Explorer was my inspiration, and I enjoyed so much its reading. I send you my best cordial regards, Abel.

... I must say your comment took me to a complete surprise, as you begin in a very polite way your sentence, but then the text turns a bit aggresive, if you let me express what I felt when reading you. I have stated here, that I´m rather new in watch... 

Fumanku, It is always good to share your opinion / knoweldge on a watch, but it is certainly better to elaborate such statements. Sharing an opinion is good, sharing some serious knowledge is even better. Feel free to do so, please. Best, Nicolas

... I know I have a lot to learn about watches and watch collecting. May be this is an opportunity to learn something here. You know, collecting is a school in which we never get the final title. We always keep learning! Un abrazo afectuoso mi amigo! Abel... 

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... I was willing to know your impressions about my new finding, but I guess these comments of our colleague has turned a bit the course of my initial post. Believe me that I got a rather bitter flavour in my mouth now. First time this happens to me in ma... 

But I don't have the pretention to know all and to have seen all the Vintage Rolex. I discover not every day, but let's say each month something I didn't know nor see. Do I have to say that because I never saw it, the dial or the watch is wrong? No. I jus... 

... for your comments. It is true that we always keep learning about watches (or any other collecting object), and specially complex is everything around Rolex. Regarding a honeycomb dial in 6610 Explorers, I took the information from the Antiquorum "Evol... 

Great watch, I like both in fact. I guess that you have to believe in fate sometimes. Best regards, George

... Yes, it´s true, Fate (or coincidences) come to help us, the enthusiastic collectors! May be Cosmos has something to do, or just Good Luck! I send my cordial regards, Abel.

The 6610 with honey comb dial: we do not see it "at all street corners"

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You always show great examples of iconic watches and, besides the intrinsic value of watches, share with us your own personal and very interesting stories. Thank you for that, although I'm sure that you like other passionate collectors, find great added p... 

... I sincerely appreciate them, and be assured that I take great pleasure in writing and sharing these stories, which are the principal part in the enjoyment of collectible objects of any kind. Of course I´m no watch expert, and also it is true what you ... 

Gracias por compartir tus tesoros. Al igual que tu, por eso me gusta the PuristS. Disfruta mucho tus relojes, Hermano de las Pampas! René

... sabes que es para mi un placer compartir estas piezas aquí. Te quedo muy agradecido por tu amabilidad y tu respaldo. Mil gracias amigo! Recibe un afectuoso saludo, Abel.

Hi guys- Sorry for the belated post here, but the 6610 did not come ever with a honeycomb dial. This was a characteristic of the 6350, and below is a picture (credit to SteveP) of a "textbook" example. Not the gold colored (gilt) paint used on the dial su...  

... thank you for your explanation. I understand you are guided by a good cause of ilustrating me and other fellow members here. I will make check my watch, and claim the dealer if confirm your information. Other sources I checked mention that 6610 Explor... 

Hi Abel- I misspoke about TWO fake/refinished dials. I saw closeups of the 6610 dial and assumed it was a 6350 dial, then saw the side by side shots which you labeled as 6610. In haste I thought they were two separate watches when in fact they are the sam... 

I have never seen one either. I also agree that the earliest 6610s came with the red depth writing....however, in the late 1950s there is some evidence to suggest that some 6610s had honeycomb dials. Skeet and Urul, page 78 clearly states that the 6610 wa... 

Rolex NEVER made a 6610 with a honeycomb dial, and this particular example has characteristics as I pointed out that would NOT be correct for any Rolex of that era or any era. While the Skeet and Url book provides a good baseline of info for the novice co... 

... I sincerely appreciate your thoughtful insight and cautious approach to this dilemma about the honeycomb dial. I read the book you mention as well as the comments in same respect in the Revolution Antiquorum catalog regarding use of honeycomb dial in ... 

... Sir: I never mentioned in my initial post anything else but my 1016, and my 6610. No other reference was named. So, your confusion surely came with your haste to signal both watches shown by me as fakes. It seems your hand over the keyboard was faster... 

I've already stated in my earlier post that the 1016 you posted is fine and the watch in question is the 6610. Be my guest and take it to any other dealer for authentication and they will tell you the same thing. Furthermore, you show your 6610 in success... 

I´m not in deffensive. I accept what you say as an expert. Yes, I shown the watch with different straps, and I explained in my text that. You didn´t read it. What I feel (may be due to my manage of English) a very aggresive way in your words in ... 

You see as he say 6610 never (at least to his knowledge) came with honey comb dial only 6350 came with one. When he saw the your photos it's logical he think is a 6350 at first glance. Upon careful inspection and reading your post then we know you referri... 

... Yes, you are completely right, and you have just described my feelings presently. I´m not a watch dealer, or make business with antiques or any other object. I never sold an object of my collection, nor intend to do in the future. As you say, the shad... 

As much as I want to agree with you. I hesitate to advice you in keeping this watch. I know you might not want another soul to get damn by this watch(if that's true) However if you don't voice out to your dealer that they might sold you a questionable wat... 

... I appreciate your kind words. I´ll visit the dealer of this watch soon, and will talk him about this matter. I send my best cordial regards, Abel.

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...what you gonna do Abel? I am eager to know more PS: @ Fumanku: Are you Eric KU?

... You asked me what I´ll do. I answered above: once the doubt is placed, you don´t feel the same about the piece. I bought it in good faith to a persona from which I bougth several other pieces before, and I feel will have no trouble in return it. But f... 

seen sufficient vintage Rolexes to make that claim and if only he is the real Eric Ku that I have read about. Well no harm checking it further, if that's the case. This Eric Ku may also have lots of rare vintage Rolexes such as the Submariner cross breed ... 

... I agree with you and I have no doubt about Mr. Ku credentials, expertise and experience. He surely has accumulated a lot more of knowledge than me, and no arguing in that. He is the expert here. Just a matter of points of views about what I feel are m... 

positive one, in your favour of course. Cheers.

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congrats on your acquisition. beautiful watch. wear it in the best of health!!

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I own a 6610 myself and I'm a little aware about this reference. I also agree that 6610 never came with honeycomb dial or, in any case, I never saw one with such a dial which is typical for 6350 (earlier model). About this specific watch it seems one of t... 

... is back in the hands of the seller. Well, sadly, experience is also built with mistakes! I wish this lesson will help me in the future. Best cordial regards, Abel.

I hope you got your money back, most of us have had this kind of experience, wit some more or less happy endings!... The vintage world is complicated and the Rolex vintage world is a real mine field and as enjoyable it is when you get a great watch, it fe... 

... and agree with you. When dealing with an upper scale of references, models or variants, there is always a bigger risk of making mistakes, specially if a newcomer like me. Though I try my best, researching before plunging in the purchase, that move was... 

.....in my opinion. ;-) P.S. This is mine by the way. ;-) This message has been edited by Peppo on 2012-03-25 06:31:07...  

Best, Nicolas...  

mine is 268.4xx with caseback stamped 1957. White lollypop models should stay in a very close range.

Mine is 268 57x! I 57. Very close, indeed! Best, Nicolas

so I can easily write it like it is 268499, and my caseback I 59 as well ............... they were both manufactured the same day 55 years ago. The Rolex vintage world is funny and small ;-) This message has been edited by Peppo on 2012-03-25 10:22:08

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It´s amazing to realize how close yours serial number is with Nicolas own!! I wish I´ll get a nice example myself, to balance the sour taste this one has left in my mouth! Enjoy your Explorers my friends! Very cordially, Abel.

Dear Abel, I just read this now with great interest as I am finishing a report on the 6350 Honeycomb dial watch. From all my research I have done, I too can with high probability (though I am not 100% certain) that a 6610 with honeycomb does not exist. Th... 

... in my collecting career, but not the only one I regret. As you know, vintage collecting is like crossing a mined field, and knowledge and experience are required as well as caution and help from other fellow collectors. I have to accept that initially... 

Dear Abel, I am very sorry to hear this and thank you for the explanation. I have had my share of bad experiences too. I fully agree with you: Eric could have been more diplomatic but the good part is that it allowed you to act and therefore at least your... 

... at the end of the story I feel grateful to Mr. Eric for his intervention. He saved me a lot of cash and future trouble as well as enlightened me about this particular issue after all. Of course it was not an easy stuff to digest and as you well say, s... 

.....I remember very well buying a Mk3 DRSD from one of the most well-known dealers.....it was possibly 7 years ago. It came to pass that the serial number was not compatible with it being a Mk3. I asked the dealer to return the money, and he told me that... 

... with your DRSD. Interesting to read and learn always from our own bad experiences as well as from other fellow collectors. I´m sure that almost every vintage collector has a bad experience in his career. Thank you again for your sharing and also for y... 

we know for sure that a very special 6610 exists .. it's the " cream " one ( glossy cream dial not satinated like in cosmographs ) : ...  

btw .. one of the rarest combo ever made by Rolex .