marcello pisani
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here you are ..
the " desert sub " ( aka " black sub " ) in his outstanding and " cold " beauty ....
absolutely stunning charcoal colour ... very cold to the touch with
case, back and metal strap teflon coated ( of course with Rolex Geneva confirmation) .. maybe only 3 ( or 5 ? ) done : saw it " live " in 2000 and the requested price was roughly equal to 5 comex 1665 ..
but you are right : it's more a dream than a hunt ...
the watch was presented with his special pristine dial with extra-small indexes faded to dark-brown due to African sun ( in this picture is shown with a standard dial .. don't know why ) .
in my bloody partisan opinion .. the most rare, peculiar and interesting thin ever done by Rolex ...
a watch not certainly for all and not for his value ...
This message has been edited by marcello pisani on 2014-04-24 03:27:49
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What are you hunting for?
Lets be honest, one of the fun aspects of vintage Rolex is the "hunt". Sometimes a hunt can last years and sometimes it is over very quickly. So lets hear it....what is your Number One target now... I will tell you mine.....its a 1965 Gilt 5512 Submariner...
For me Joe it's a 6263
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still desperate for a tripple 6 seadweller...
But still sadly not finding one with any form of paper work or even a recent Rolex service certificate. Perhaps I should correct this, I can find with the white gold surrounds on the index's, but not one with the complete tritium index's. The search conti...
Many things!
Joe, What do you mean by subsequent rendition? You mean the next model within the 5512? Does that mean a 4L PCG? Or the white print non pcg vesion that came around 1967/1968? Or a 5512 underline dial? Christies has a very nice 5512 coming in May. I am doi...
Either a porcelain dial early Daytona or a winner's Daytona
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What is interesting is the vast spread of different desires....
.......nothing special is "hot" in vintage Rolex..... It is ALL hot
Hunting and dreaming are two different things.
I am dreaming of a 6200, but this is not very realistic... A military 1675 as well... UAE is my favourite. Or a 6542 " Red ". I am hunting some tough watches: Tudor 7922, 7924 ARA, for example. Some easier to grab, a Tudor MN Submariner Ref 94010 or a 792...
A valid distinction....
......my net is wide, but my focus always needs to be narrow! I am evaluating a lot of different themes and I think my collection is taking some new directions, but adding another 5512 is one of these "focus" targets. 1019 is one we share...but I will mak...
wanna be honest with you ???
5513 Desert Sub SAF ... not sure I can afford it now .... ...
here you are ..
the " desert sub " ( aka " black sub " ) in his outstanding and " cold " beauty .... absolutely stunning charcoal colour ... very cold to the touch with case, back and metal strap teflon coated ( of course with Rolex Geneva confirmation) .. maybe only 3 (...
no back engravings ...
I would compare it to the essential Malevich's square .... very few people were able to appreciate the " simply cold " beauty of this watch .... for the couple of hours spent together was able to create in me the same sensations you feel watching at the w...
Nice comparison, Marcello. Thanks for the precision, too.
A bit like a 5513 M.N, but without the engravings, then? Where was it bought by the SAF Army? At a Rolex AD, or directly to Geneva? Best, Nicolas
well .. with all the due respect ..
to 5513 MN it was another stuff ... btw this is the only example of teflon coating ever seen ( and most likely the very only one made ) : the watch was completely un-reflecting even under direct sun light .. had a sort of alien-look .. not easy to describ...
Wow! Thanks again, for these precisions.
Don't tell me more about it, I don't want to have another object of obsession. ;) Best! Nicolas
No I can see its not from 65
......its like a Jedi thing.... i can feel it. aha...aha.
easy....
......its Nicolas...he is trying to torment me....so i am guessing that he has any mod-60s Sub and will call it a 65 to torment me...especially as he once mentioned to me that he rarely ever sees 65s....so basically I am spoofing him
+1... I also noted that those from 1964 rarely came with a nice dial.
I mean, a dial in nice condition. I saw a bit more from 1965, and muuuch more from 1966. Can't explain why, unless there are a lot of vintage Rolex collectors from 1964 and 1965 who keep them. ;) Best, Nicolas
You noticed it, too? I once found one, but it was a FAP GMT.
And the seller wanted the moon for it... Damn! Nicolas
For me .. Humble & simple.. Or not ?
.. Let me think a bit: 1/ first ( humble) target is a very nice, gilt or nicely patinated 1016 Explo ( maybe a 6610 instead ?), preferably w B+ P 2/ a glossy dialled Sub ( as now I've only mattes) eg: 5508 with gilt or very nice patina 3/ possibly an upgr...
Well.. Indeed, you've been sitting close enough.. When we touched that marvel ! ..
.. so probably it's not so much "if" , but just " when".. Until then, lots of other things to take care of ! - but thx for the kind encouragement.. It sure was quite an "ueber-cool" piece ! We'll see what's in the boxes of the future.. Best, hs
To be honest with vintage Rolex you have to be opportunistic
As you noted cast a wide net but setting goals for perfection sometimes will lead to never pulling the trigger or missing opportunities. Each time a perfect watch presents it self I have time to fall in love even without having previously desired it. Over...
That' s right
It's a no 2004 no hole case, put in a safe with his stickers during 10 years
So...
Pointed Crown Guard, Gilt Dial, Underline ? That would be nice to add to compliment this beautiful 5512 I myself am looking for a nice gilt dial sub, 5513 or 5512 if I'm lucky… I sort of give up hunting for a chapter ring 5512, the price has gone up crazy...
Luckily i dont hunt.
I try to be always open minded. So that when a great example is available i am able to consider and aquire it without any hesitation. Works well for me cause Quality, desirability and rarity comes to play everytime i add a watch. It happened 3 weeks ago i...
A 5513 gilt
A nice example. One day. Oh, and I wouldn't turn down Nico's 7924! Great watch. A great 5508 would be nice as well - red triangle insert. Cool 16600 COMEX. All the wearability of modern Rolex with a cool and rare aspect to it. Great find! V/R Mike
The Tudor 7924 is a must have, in my opinion.
One of the most interesting BC, ever... Best, my dear Mike. Nicolas