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I'm now the proud owner of the Black-Bay ancestor, a 94010 Submariner originally issued with this stunning dial/hands combo for only one year, every known examples throughout the world (a very few watches) being in the 8.8/beginning of the 8.9XXX serial r...  

I have to read the article again, but I haven't seen some of those different versions of Tudor Black Bay/Submariner watches before. Good to see and good to know. Can't believe someone used the watch as a hammer. Someone ought to report the perpetrator to ... 

To be clear, this Tudor cannot be seen as the ancestor of the Black Bay, since it is the 7922, Big Crown, no crownguards. But I get what you mean, and this is about the dial. I've never seen such a combination of dial and hands, but this is not because I ... 

Hello Nicolas, You're right, I refer to this specific dial/hands combo to establish the paternity link between the Black-Bay and this 94010 Submariner. When you examine the different feet location on the two dials (7016 on the left) as seen in the picture...  

I am looking forward to hearing some comments. Bill

I bought it :) No bracelet marks on the case back and I was fully aware of what a great price it was :) Great piece by the way, glad I got in just before you published it I also have a nice brown insert waiting for its new home LOL

He'll then have to show us his MN, Ci (4??), South African, Canadian and that's just the Mil Tudors. Then it'll be the CX watches, MilSub etc etc. Ian is an addict!!! ;-) R

Wow, you're a lucky fellow…. I would have loved to see this ad on time…

First, thanks for posting this watch....it is always great too see such histories and stories. I am curious about the nail-damage to the case back. You suggest that this could not have been done by a civilian. Why would someone on the military have used i... 

This is pure speculation on my part about the nail marks… But Tudor Submariners were expensive sport watches (not to mention Rolex…) compared to most brands at that time and I guess that a civilian would not use an expensive sport watch as a hammer. Sound... 

....the French military keep a full record of the watches issued to the French Military...the MN. I wonder if the Canadians do the same? Would definitely be worth checking as that would provide uncontested provenance. Man...if i was a soldier and i had a ... 

I was outbid on a 94010 with the same dial / hands combo a couple years ago. Unfortunately the pictures from the original listing expired and the serial number was not included in the description, but perhaps the dealer still has these details available s... 

Yes, this unusual dial/hands combo is very nice. Navyeight mentioned that the watch he lately purchased on VRF had not bracelet marks. Mine is mounted on a late folded flip lock band from the late eighties, so not original to the watch (1978). It has remi... 

Pic od the VRF watch ...