BDLJ
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But I wasn't talking....
..Diablos. 
My point was around modern supercars (worst appellation ever, but eh, that's another windmill) and for that matter, modern cars.
At what stage do driver aids (and I count the humble brake booster as an aid) become 'nannies'?
Is it wisdom on the part of the manufacturer or a 'compromise' that the likes of ESP and ABS are provided to help stop these high powered machines clattering into the countryside? After all, vehicles with higher power-to-weight than the porky but powerful Aventador exist on tiny tyre contact patches..with no ABS and no TC...but very very few can ride them near the edge, so the almosst stray into pose-mobile territory. (yeah, mikes again, but this time the 200hp things)
So, going back to cars, the question is: are TC/ABS/ESP now the price of the current level of performance?
(as for paddles, they are 100% nanny, for people with weak left legs and a fear of stalling )
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until I get a chance to catch my breath. I think Top Gear picked the Aventador as their COTY; I'm sure they won't be the last. An amazing car... (the M-B SLS Roadster and the Maserati GranTurismo MC Stradale are pretty damned close on its heels, though, a...
Those tail-lights
Are they supposed to look like the reactor in "Back to the Future", or is that just a happy accident? A
If you love extreme, high performance road cars...
you owe it to yourself to check out, ideally to drive, one. As a PURE car I still like the Diablo more (is there such a thing as TOO well sorted?) but I'm sure the Aventador would kick 99.9% of any production car out there in actual quantitative measurabl...
Nanny?
...Doesn't your Gallardo (and this Aventador) have ABS, stability control, a brake differential system, 'leccy suspension adjustment; not to mention 4WD, throttle-by- wire and paddles instead of a pedal and lever? If it weren't for the performance...how m...
um, BDLJ...
the DIABLO VT did have a primitive form of traction control and admittedly had power steering, grudgingly...but if you've ever driven one, you would be hard pressed to think of it in this regard in the same context of modern cars of any sort, from the mos...
But I wasn't talking....
..Diablos. My point was around modern supercars (worst appellation ever, but eh, that's another windmill) and for that matter, modern cars. At what stage do driver aids (and I count the humble brake booster as an aid) become 'nannies'? Is it wisdom on the...
bloody hell...
I had a short but long reply keyed in, and hit send, then find out my net access timed out and lost everything. :-( Something about even 500hp in a straight line without traction control...and 911's with decades of suspension and chassis development, with...
Based on the...
...shreds of your ideas that remain....some responses to your thought starters... 500hp in a straight line: Not much experience of this. Drove an RS6 (in both straight and not-so-straight lines), strangely a bit of a snore. Drove a very hot '69 Camaro (no...
Nanny , BDLJ ?
First of all we live in a " Nanny state " LOL coined by Mark Webber. Roads over policed , speed cameras etc . I agree with you about being a true purist with cars. We had a all too brief conversation at the GTG about cars which were lightweight , nimble a...
I agree with all of that, dreamer.
But the market has spoken, and reliability (good), safety (good) and convenience (definite hmmmmm) have taken precedence over many of the 'joyful' aspects of cars. The tiny niches 'driver's cars' such as the Elise now occupy show how those aspects are reg...
Just a few more laments BDLJ
Throttle response not fast snappy direct manual changes because of the massive flywheels used in modern cars to dampen out vibration to the extent that that is no " zing " left when you blip LOL. We will talk more soon. Cheers,dreamer
On the topic...
....of how much you can take out of a car, gearshifts, lightness, etc. I just (literally 30 min ago) had a go in a nice red MG PA. Reverse gate gearchange, about 2inches of clutch travel, rod brakes...totally impure with it's new-fangled indicator add-ons...
Sport +
"It's so good, it actually doesn't feel as quick and fast as it is!" Not in the same league, but a recent squirt in the current 911 Carrera made me think of the same thing. I thought the rear end was still a little more skittish than I expected from a mod...
Thanks. Unfortunately I only had a ...
... phone camera to record the occasion as I handed the car back. Looking forward to driving the new 911 next year. Andrew
Hi Thomas, that is a fierce looking car.
Is that number plate allowed in the US? Regards Ling
Naw...
it's a "demo" plate. This is the only car - make and model - that doesn't look stupid or kitschy in matte paint...imho of course.
Imagine seeing this...
But it can look slightly less sinister too, depending on the background... doesn't this look almost...relaxed? Yeah, I agree...NAW!!!!...
Stole your breath away?
I can imagine that. It reminds me of the Stealth B2 Bomber that flew over Phoenin for the 2001 World Series when the Diamondbacks won the Championship. Tito and I often talked about what type car we would have rented to travel up Highway 1… I think this w...
LOL Funny! I didn't intend my words...
to be taken that way (lost my breath) but yeah, that too! Cheers, Helen.
It's been fun...
Had a chance to take it up to some pretty decent speeds on two tracks - you could still feel the weight transfers, but the grip was always there. Brakes were reliable and pretty unexciting, the way I like it. If anything, I thought it was too soft for the...
Can't wait to hear about this one
Great pic TM, I can't wait to hear more about the Aventador. Regards, ED-209
Wow ...
That's it ...just wow ...it seems to cover all the bases. Enjoy it in the best of health ...as my father-in-law would say. Dean.
