Bulgari

 
Screenshot from bulgari.com shows the old calibre 138 movement with 36 jewels.

My version, purchased 9/21, has the "old" movement.

Don’t think so. Other micro rotor replicas look much different.

Finish remains good for the price, roughly on par with JLC, the (majority) mass-produced AP movements, and GO.
Best,
Tim

Did you find the finishing on the new movement to be of a lower quality? Visually, it seems less arresting, and the bridges are far less ornate.  The old movements were a cut above JLC, in my opinion.

Because one day there probably will be a fake! Once the Octo Finissimo bandwagon takes off!

In this day and age, this is nothing short of shocking to me.  It would be one thing to roll this movement out in a new watch - however, to put a "new" movement into existing lines without telling your customers or announcing it or anything is absolutely crazy.  Particularly, when the winding efficiency of the movement of the watch has always been questionable.

Pretty sure Tim was not fooled. The watch looks legit.

Have taken her swimming to the beach many times, and our pool, plus there's the on/off road bicycling. So far she has been incredibly durable and keeps excellent time. Winding is fine too, stay active my friends. 

saw this on timeandtide.com , hands on review. 

Would like to see a second watch with the “new” movement.

but I've watched that review a couple times. The watch is as real looking as it gets. Tim has already commented in the thread with some additional info.

…in design to the new Bulgari perpetuals. 

In order to make it more interesting: please see attached photo of my OF 10th anniversary.

Just checked the Bulgari website they show the new version on the anniversary model. 

The old movement, the one with more jewels, didn't wind perfectly, as almost all automatic winding micro rotors suffer.  It's not a problem unique to Buglari.  A lot of micro rotors have winding issues.  Thus, some clients would complain the movement would stop even after a fairly active day.  I myself, have encountered waking up and seeing the watch had stopped at around 3AM in the middle of the night, when I had walked several miles the day before.  Maybe Bulgari created a new movement to counteract this problem? 

show the old version in website descriptions and even, seemingly, put both into the anniversary model without any mention? It's hard to understand.

Definitely unusual!  I might have called it BVL 138 V2 or 138B or something to denote there's a difference.  But then again, I'm not the one in charge! 

Contrary to your thread where you thank him for initially pointing out the changes, he made no mention whatsoever. Just to clarify. Whether he was aware of the alterations at the time of the review is not known. 

The other threads cited they found out through Tim’s video and I must have made the incorrect assumption that Tim mentioned it. Oops. Sorry! Thanks for straightening out the record there!

So, thought it important to clarify that instead of praise perhaps some criticism is more appropriate, assuming he was aware of the changes.

And especially on Watchbox, a platform with the intention of selling a watch, one has to assume they will naturally never be critical of their own product in a video. It's neither the place nor the time, and the questions it raises wouldn't be able to be addressed. But I'm sure if you spoke to Tim in person and asked him to compare the two in person, he would definitely spot the details and give you a thoughtful and objective opinion. Having known Tim for many years, the gentleman is indeed knowledgeable and fair. Overall, the Bulgari movement is finished way above its pricepoint. You're basically a high horology piece (it's already high horology due to the thin-ness, and I would say the finishing is better than typical JLC, around Piaget level, and almost equivalent to lower end Audemars Piguet), so it's quite a good value overall for around 12,000 USD, relatively speaking. I'd say Bulgari's COGS (cost of goods sold) is fairly high here, and the R&D probably took a long time too, so the R&D amortization is probably quite high. Combined with the fact that ultra-thin movements always have to be assembled by hand, and take a lot of time for adjustment, it's definitely a well priced watch.