Patek Philippe

enamel Worldtime is a special and iconic ! However, I am biased because I am the enamel “slave” !

Good luck with your decision whether it will be 5231 or otherwise. Let us know what yiu decide and we look forward to your wrist shot !

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I would make the exception and get both the world timer and new perpetual, I really like 5320G as well but might be going against your blue dial choices.

A very nice shortlist. All are great choices.

5231 and 5327 are at opposite ends of the availability spectrum. 5231 is an application piece and will be impossible to get at Msrp from an AD without a big purchase history. 5327 like you say should not involve too much of a search.

5236 is interesting - I expect supplies will be limited at first.

Of the 3 above my choice is easy 5231 every day - but you need to consider if you only have one Patek whether this is the one.

Others maybe to consider...

5320g - one of my favourites. A mix of deco and contemporary. Not for everyone but I love it.
5170g - white or or black dial. In my opinion, much underrated beautiful pieces. Depends whether you like a chrono though! Should just about be available as NOS somewhere.

And some curve balls for used - I know maybe not your preference but tempting!

5110p - For me, the most beautiful non enamel dialled WT. Also stunning as 5130p which may be able to be found NOS.
3940 - the classic perpetual and the remainder of your reserves gets your Lange too.
3970 - go full tilt for the full classic Patek experience! If you don’t want your watch big this can be yours. Wears a little thicker.

And last of all .....
5270g or R for just about similar money grey to the 5236! Wears big but I believe it is a slightly unloved future classic. Appreciation for this piece should rise after its discontinued. It wears big though.

You have a lot of tempting options. Good luck in your search.

Welcome here ... 

Between the three watches you mentioned, my favorite are definitely the 5231 and 5236, by a long shot. To be as usual honest and direct, however, it's extremely difficult to be allocated a 5231 as a first-time Patek customer, irrespective of whether a given AD is a jerk ;-)  Also, on a more subjective note, I would *never* pay a watch one cent above retail -- ever. Of course, as a consequence, this would virtually eliminate the 5231 from my short list, at least for the time being.

I have been leaning heavily towards the 5321, but, like others have said, I have full knowledge that I will not be allocated one of them.  Nonetheless, while I am typically opposed to paying one red cent above MSRP, I think I could stomach the grey market premium in this instance.  Specifically, if grey market prices hold, I could probably get one for near $100k, and if I bought it from my AD, I'd be looking at close to $90k with sales tax.  It kills me to pay a 10% premium, but I think I can stomach it in this instance (honestly, there seems to be a glut in 5231s on the grey market).  I also have an ace that I may play, but I'm not really sure if I want to do so (I have an extremely high net worth client that is the AD's #1 customer by a very considerable margin, and I know she would love to go to bat for me).

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Generally a waste ...u will know when the right watch comes along...love to own versus like to own

I have yet to find a watch that I 100% love. But there are flaws, albeit minor, that I can live with (thus, I ended up getting married ).

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Really, it is not going for that much more than MSRP on grey market.

...when they enlarged the case, they had to do something with the extra dial space to hide the small (although nice) movement. It was a design compromise. Some compromises are necessary, but at $100k this should not be one of them.

So, MSRP for the 5231 is $80 and grey is $100, and with the former, I'd have to pay 10%+ sales tax. To me, that is not so crazy. Obviously, do not want to pay the grey market surcharge - but I can live with it in this instance.
As for the 5236P, I guess time will tell as to just how in-demand the watch is!

...if you plan on buying more PP, you will be in the same boat as now, not having a relationship/history with your AD. Chicken/egg. If this is your 'exit' piece, then no problem...

Although I imagine those are famous last words! The other watches on my list are not Patek, so I’m OK with not establishing a relationship. I’ll still give the AD a chance though.

...I would talk to a few and let them know what you want. If they sell other brands you might be interested in later that may help. I had no history with a local Rolex AD but put my name on the list for a SS white face Daytona and got it after about a 9 month wait...not too bad. You never know...

Perhaps the best advice here anyone can give you is to go to a store and try on some of these watches and see if anyone really speaks out to you.

Now it’s true, it’s difficult to find a store that has all three. But you can get close approximations. Perpetual calendars are readily in stock as are non enamel world timers. And the newest perpetual calendar won’t be available to be seen immediately.

The fact that you publicly declare that your AD “sucks” is possibly due to a few different factors, they’re probably not great, but it’s also possible because you haven’t engaged them in a way that makes them feel you are a serious candidate. You may appear indecisive or uncommitted. Example; you mention acquiring a Lange after the Patek yet you haven’t even gotten to the Patek yet. For instance, you asking other people’s opinion on a watch that was just launched makes it look like you’re unrealistic or you didn’t do your homework.

Basing your acquisition decisions on other people’s impressions of a watch makes it look like you’re copying someone else’s homework. Why would you let strangers who’ve never met you influence your decision? And even those strangers can’t give you much valuable insight on a watch that was just announced this month.

And since you’re likely a young and successful guy (assuming you’re not just inheriting money) who has already spent a princely 30,000 Canadian dollars with your AD, you probably can trust your own judgment.

I see a lot of youthful enthusiasm here. And we’re all happy to fan the flames and give encouragement. But be realistic, be calm, be humble, and go with your own gut feelings. We get a lot of false starts by people on this forum who ask what watch should they buy and oddly most of them report back on what they bought (possibly because they never bought it).

So far, I've had a chance to try the 5230 and the 5327.  Loved the feeling of the first, I go back and forth on the second.  Obviously, have not had a chance to try the 5236.  (Also, at least one person here appears to have it, and I heard it is trickling in to ADs...).