Patek Philippe

I have been searching for an ultimate watch for myself. I am not a "REAL WIS" but have kept up a healthy interest for myself. I narrowed it down to 2 brands for various reasons ... AL & S and Patek. As much as I like Patek, I realized that I would have to eliminate the brand because..

1) I want my ultimate watch to be cased in Platinum

2) I ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY cannot stand the hidden diamond. Yes, it is hidden and subtle, but I know it is there.. It is my eyes and it will drive me nuts.. DEFILING the otherwise beautiful watch and case if you ask me..

 

Should I hold out any hope that Patek with stop this obnoxious (to me) practice of putting a diamond in every PT cased watch?

 

 

use of the diamond accent?

There are a number of references which cover a broad range from simple to complicated.

Look around, I'm sure there's something out there for you.

Between the lugs.

Best,

Nicolas.

but I may be wrong.

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see it, it may have shown up with the 5146P but, for some reason, I thought it was earlier.

I just acquired a 5056P with an archival letter stating that the watch was manufactured in 1999 with a date of sale of  November, 1999 and it has the diamond.  I believe the 3035 made its debut in 1997, but a knowledgeable dealer told me he tought Patek started putting the diamond in platinum watches in 98 or 99.

The fact is that I never knew with precision he first " use " of a diamond between the lugs for the platinum PP watches.

There are many contradictory informations, and I start to wonder of it doesn't depend of the models...

I'm thinking loud, it is just a guess from me.

Best, and welcome here, by the way.

Nicolas.

I thought I was the only one who 'could not stand' the diamond. Never liked it! This message has been edited by Mostel on 2011-08-19 10:35:43

You havent met me in person yet -

Go whine somewhere else. 

I agree with you - Patek's are way too blingy.  I would stay away at all costs. 

Why do we let posts like this stay? 

are not a big deal IMO. You don't even see the diamond unless you know to look for it. I can understand that the prices on Patek's platinum pieces are much higher than their gold models but the diamond placed on the bottom underside of the case should not detract you from buying one of their watches.

Tony

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for me the diamond make the platinum case special in patek watches.

in my list of things that bother me Although I could easily do without it, and even I am bothered by the silly cabochon sapphire that Glashütte Original puts on the crown of their platinum pieces. As usual, Lange gets it right.

Best

Andreas

Forgets to give their dials any style

Oopse - did I just post that? 

Any brand that can make Patek look staid....well, enough said. 

Yawn. 

http://alang.watchprosite.com/show-forumpost/fi-10/pi-4825028/ti-732998/s-0/

Best

Andreas

There are still some pristine example for sale.

Best,

Horo

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Seriously, if it bothers you that much, don't buy it.  Just don't whine about it  

Oh, and nice first post, rpilot.  Perhaps after you get a non-diamond-bearing Lange, you can have a second, and more positive post. There is an ALS forum here.

It's a completely legitimate DESIGN critique on the gent's part. MUST WE love diamonds? What's the problem here? Diamonds are garish and feminine, except in very rare cases. But when some guy shows us his diamond encrusted 5971, we don't say, 'oh God, I'm blinded!' We allow him his taste. Why is this gent not allowed his taste? Why can't he 'lament' that Patek's platinum watches do not suit his taste? It's as trivial/not trivial as any other pure-opinion design element we discuss here ad infinitum. This message has been edited by Mostel on 2011-08-21 16:34:51

Put a diamond between the lug of their platinum watches.

There is no reason to flame him, indeed, and even if the diamond doesn't bother me, as it is not too visible, I would also have preferred without.

Best,

Nicolas.

nt

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Hi,

The press kit of the 5100 and 5110, launched together in 2000, make a great deal of this little diamond, perhaps as if it was a new thing.

Cheers

Dje

What really bothers me is that I do not afford to turn most of my white gold watches, Patek or not, into platinum cases (with diamond included) ;-)

apparently, nobody owns a PP -not even our dear moderator Dje. but you can still buy one (or more). you can "have" a patek, but you don't "own" it.

nt

To Mostel: Thank you.

To those who suggest earlier PP’s :  A) some of them are smaller than I like and B) I had my heart set on a new one.  But thank you for the kind suggestions and the effort of researching earlier models.

To Tony: The point is that I know it is there, I can see it and that is the aspect that bothers me the most.

To Michael Chang: Your opinion is different than mine, but I respect it and shows that some folks like it.

To Andreas: You had me laughing.  Utter disgust is what comes to mind when I see the cabochon crowns in a Man’s watch.

To those suggesting that I get an ALS and be done with it.. I probably will but I really like some of the the Patek design aesthetics better and hence the lament. As much as I like the clean design of ALS they come across as a bit “cold” to me with the exception of the 1815 which I am considering. PP’s 5196G is a prime example of clean design that is …well… not as cold. Wish the PT version was just like the WG version or at the very least did not have the little diamond.

To the flamers and detractors… well.. the less said the better.

BTW, is PP_Geneve really a PP representative? Marketing slogan aside, PP did not even dignify me with a response when I sent a polite email asking if there were possibilities in the future of Platinum Patek’s without the Diamond.  

Still holding out hope that I can own  (and is PP_Geneve really a PP representative ?) a PP in the future with Oscillomax and PP will oblige and make some pieces in Platinum that I like without the Diamond. Never know.

 

rpilot:

where did you get the idea that "is PP_Geneve really a PP representative"? i never made such a claim, neither did i ever post anything worth of being suspicious of speaking with the authority of pp.

yes, i use "PP" and "Geneve" in my acronym, but thereby i don't intend to imply any official or real connection with PP, except of being a great fan thereof. otherwise, i might start to guess that rpilot is a fighter pilot in real life or that someone calling himself "captain america" on a comics forum is actually walking around with red boots...

also, regarding "PP did not even dignify me with a response when I sent a polite email asking if": i was not able to read -let alone dignify- your email because a) you don't know my email address, and b) i never got any message from you in my message box on this forum in the first place...
furthermore, assuming that you registered a week ago and send me a message a few days ago: even if i would have received your message -which i didn't!- you should have the patience to wait at least 1 week, or resend the message, before expressing your disappointment regarding me, or any other member on this forum.

anyway, welcome here! and no: i'm not working for PP (maybe i should send them my cv?).

well... on a second thought: i wonder if there actually is a representative of patek HQ registered in -or merely reading- this forum...