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I have owned 3 different Omega’s with the new master chronometer rating. All ran +3 a day with this latest running -1 second so far. I thought As far as I see it Metas is just a marketing term with the master chronometers running worse than some ETA movments when it comes to accuracy.


New seamaster -1 second so far!

They say it’s supposed to be the most accurate yet it runs just like any other watch. Details and verbiage is one thing. Reality (my experience) is an other thing. I have personally also owned 2 Rolexes after their superlative chronometer marketing term but they really did run +1 daily.

It really doesn’t matter but I was more curious and that i went on their site and checked the metas test results and they are blatantly not true so whose to believe their own results that they post are even right when I can tell you I set the watch to a known time and it’s -1 overnight. Negative tolerances are not even acceptable according to their sheet.

In the sense I think you mean that there's no real benefit versus if Omega were using a modern swiss level escapement and the usual certification. Using silicon parts has reduced the effects of magnetism to point where Breguet is starting to actively use magnets in their watches and for things like minute repeaters, which may be a real step forward in sound. Their spring drive might be one step forward, although I am a fan of more traditional watchmaking.
But, I'm glad the co-axial is being used and METAS shows off what Omega movements are capable of, so it's all fine

I more passively aggressively not happy that Omega made such a big splat with METAS and then I see absolutely no benifit. Now I can’t stand watches that run slow. That’s a big no no in my eyes and if this continues tonight this watch is going back to the AD. I absolutely cannot stand slow watches it devalues the brand and turns me completely off from them!!!!


I am a big believer in say what you do and mean what you say. I view this as a blatant lie with fake statistics for their test results! They also try to compete with Rolex as a direct head to head and from my personal experience if Rolex says it they mean it and do it. Superlative chronometer Mumbo jumbo really means +/-2 nothing else

If their claim is 0-2 but you get one above or below on a small sample how are they lying? Isn’t that statistically insignificant? Or even within a margin of error? For that matter, how do you know that you are even testing under the same conditions that they certify under?

METAS states +0/5-6

I set the time to a known reference clock in the morning wear it and put it down on the nightstand and pick it up in the morning and check against the same source.

Whatever testing they did clearly didn’t cover the scenario of putting the watch down on the night stand in a particular position and pick it up in the morning.

As a user of a timepiece i don’t need to fiddle with it. I need to be able to put it down and pick it up and have the tolerance fall within the stated numbers which in my case is -1

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The point of a forum is to discuss horology. You didn’t like what you read so you went Omega nuthugger defending them! I don’t know who you are but from my time in this forum you have been the only troll like responder!

Summing up your responses....

Go buy a quartz watch.
Return it don’t talk about it
So what if it’s -1 or -2 it’s still good doesn’t matter
METAS is great and not bs... Superlative Chronometer is BS
You are frustrated the watch is fine!

All non productive back handed responses! My opinion is you haven’t had anything more than a speedy so it’s natural to think Omega is the best and can do no wrong!

Advice, go venture out try some other brands then come back with valid opinions that add value!!

I have a Rolex that is running -5 secs/day when on the wrist since it was brand new. It bothers me a bit because of all the 'superlative' mumbo jumbo, but not enough to make me send it back. On the other hand, my most accurate watch is a Squale Master, which has a modified 2892 movement, but showed +2 sec in total after 9 days of very active wear. In the end, I think most modern movements are capable of very high accuracy, so long as good care is taken in adjusting them.

The issue is not the time keeping to the second it’s the fact that heh gloated about METAS and put some bs numbers down on a website. I get the watch and it’s running slow which is not even within their acceptable tolerances.

Also to your point. ETA movements as really good. They are workhorses and adjusted to perfection which makes the whole in-house vs ETA thing even more interesting as a discussion point


Grand Seiko has been the most accurate to date. Amazing movements

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Everything which is consistently in between 5 sec is simpy perfect. It wont get any better!

The point is METAS states +0/(5..6) not -1. I couldn’t care less if it was +10. What I care about is false bs marketing which is what METAS is. To that point I bring Rolex Into the picture as they are Omegas biggest competitor. When Rolex said superlative chronometer blah blah +2/-2 they meant it. 3 of my newest Rolex were all +1.5 a day.

If this is Marketing bs (as you call it), then so is also COSC and many others. 

But when one says +0/6 and one says +/-2 and one stays in the range and the other does not.... call it whatever you want!!

And if it was like that from the beginning - bring it back. As easy as that!

Your points are not wrong but you clearly missed what I was saying. I don’t work for Omega and not sponsored by them. My reality is they are liars. I will be selling this watch no doubt in a few months. Good thing there are other watches on the market that I like.

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You are an Omega fanboy which is ok every forum has one! I however am a realist and like a range of different brands/models and have no problem calling it how I see it! My money after all

I do respect other preferences and attitudes but I do not apriciate if it’s nonsense ... 😉

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One is low temperature and the other is leaving the watch with the dial facing down. You can't change the temperature but as an experiment see what happens with the dial down.

I’ll try dial down tonight. It’s just not a natural way to leave a watch so I usually either put them in their side (helium escape) side or flat. We will see

No loss or gain.

I know that you are disappointed by their claim but I think that is good time keeping by any standard. The problem with sending it back is that a new watch is going to be opened and who knows what will happen after that. See if you can forget about their advertising campaign!

I’ll just rotate it more often so it won’t matter at all!

of course it’s bullshit.  Omega went all in on a movement that at first failed horribly and now only runs as good as the traditional lever escapement.  All of the problems it was meant to solve are already solved by modern materials.

Owned almost every modern sports Rolex but I also had my share of new Omega’s. I think Omega really has good value proposition these days. Take this new seamaster 300M. I think it’s every bit as good if not better than a submariner when you take into account a 20-30% discount and see the quality and value. Looks aside as this is subjective.