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From the below thread:  panerai.watchprosite.com

Panerai PAM349 47mm Titanium Radiomir California dial w/ Minerva movement

PAM349 Photo from Bullish

And specs from BluNotte

PAM00349

Black Dial

100m Water resistant

12 Pieces

Launch November 2009

SRP: Euro 19,000
US retail ~$29k.

Cheers,
Anthony

 

 

 

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2009-11-22 08:20:33 This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2009-11-25 07:53:55

At SIHH 2009, the PAM349 was supposed to be the PAM321 on bracelet.  Panerai doesn't have this model listed on its website, so does this mean they did not make this PAM349 (PAM321 w/ bracelet) ?

PAM321

And so, gave this PAM349 designation to this new 47mm Minerva Cali?

- Anthony

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Is this a real picture?  The numbers and markers on the dial don't look quite right to me.  The 12:00 triangle marker in particular looks misaligned.

Best,

Jed

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will it be a piece that you have to be picked to buy? 12 pieces are not much to go around

But here in Japan, you sure needed to be chosen!

Cheers

Stephen

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Sharp eyes regarding the 12:00 triangle, but i do believe that it's probably a slight press print mistake.

The actual product should be straight perfect!

Cheers

Stephen

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Also, I guess Panerai decided to use the PAM349 designation to help with keeping model #'s easy to remember. 

The PAM249 is the 47mm stainless steel Cali, so it's easy to remember that the PAM349 is the Ti Minerva version.

There are just so many Panerai model #'s to remember that it helps if model # designations are sort of similar to prior past models.

Cheers,
Anthony

PS.  US retail price will be approximately $29k.  I've added this into my post above.

 

 

This message has been edited by AnthonyTsai on 2009-11-22 08:32:50

You fellows thought i was pulling some turkey's legs?!

And speaking of turkey, it's almost thanksgiving folks!

Let's take the moment and really spend some quality time with our families and loved ones over this season and remember how blessed we all are to have them, and to be able to share and induldge ourselves in this often-times very insane passion of ours!

Cheers and blessings to all!

Stephen

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Cheers!

Stephen

Such a Cali never existed....

It is a massacre of an historical piece.

Panerai should be ashame, IMO, to play with its History as they do.

A total non sense piece, for me.

Well, at 19 K Euros, I see the sense, now....

Best,

Nicolas

And while i do agree with your point Nicolas, could i try to persuade you in viewing this as a 21st century prototype?

I mean take for example the case materials, one of the most popular materials for modern Pannies is their titanium ones. And titanium doesnt exists back then historically, primarily because it wasnt exactly known to be utilised just yet.

And if OP was to do everything exactly historically, you would agree that all their models nowadays should exist ONLY in 47mm, not under, which happens to be more than 90% of their products nowadays which i totally disagree.

So to put a small second together with the Cali, it's more of like ushering a new era!

Not to mention the usage of the new Minerva ( the same 16-17 as utilised in the 309/322 , which btw is not NOS), and the numbers this time round are not given the vintage brown patinated look, meaning they should shine that extra little brighter than the 249.

Cheers

Stephen

There was no other watch like the Cali.

Touching an Icon is not a good idea, IMO.

Then again, there are some contradictions to use a Minerva movement while you're claiming to be a Manufacture.

Therefore, A proto with a NOS movement???

To me, it is just a disguised OOR Cali.

And, once again, AT THIS PRICE???

I know I'm harsh with this piece, but I personally don't get it.

Best, my enthusiastic friend.

Nicolas

It is a special piece, and you know i love my 249!

I guess for me and Panerai, while I do respect and love their historical authencity very much, i also do not mind and infact welcome with great pleasure these sorta " modern" interpretations of their watches! Because honestly speaking, this is way much better than a Chronograph panerai, than a tourbillon Panerai, and definitely way better than a Minute repeater panerai, all of which they have done since they entered the vendome era, and probably will do soon in the not too distant future.

In their stance to be a manufacture with all the mandatory innovations and complications, this is one i do not agree from the start since p.2002 was launched. I really wished that even if they decided to make their own movement, they would really just stick to time only piece. But you have to remember that not many companies can stay strong and alive with time only pieces, but i personally believe that Panerai could do. I don't know about the other markets of the world, but here in Tokyo only the bases are selling. At most the chronos, nothing else. In fact the Ferrari line sells so badly that they boutique here even took it out of their store, they don't even have 1 FER right now!

Once again mon ami, the movement is NOT NOS! Lol

So a proto with an extremely beautiful finished movement ( remember how in my 1st review of my 309 i called it "Panerai's Lange" ? ), the MOST beautiful IMHO among all movements that ever made it to being encased into a Panerai.

That's alright mon ami, wait till you see live photos of my piece, then let's see if you might be convinced?

If not, then well to each his own as always, but i do believe you will at least "feel" for it!

A beintot

Stephen

 

with you Stephen about that point.

For me, I classically prefer 309/322 model that this new one.

The fact to have both is great and I understand you.

Love the Minerva movement +++++++

322 owner;

Cheers,

patrickh

This baby is a superb beauty to me, not only for the even more unique touch to an already hell of a unique dial, it's in black, which is what i believe all Pams should be in the 1st place!

Cheers

Stephen

Brown is incredibly different.

Both are very nice on a simple dial.

Thanks to Panerai to create these so nice watches.

Enjoy your nice collection Stephen.

Cheers,

patrick

 

Is that all PAMs are originally black, with some in blue, it's just their exposure to the sun and elements over the years turned them into brown!

So even though nowadays the quality of the dial materials are way much better than back then, i'm sorta applying the same logic in saying that rather than have it brown already, it should be allowed to turn into brown slowly through the years, and if due to the way that i use my watches, and they don'T turn brown, then ALL THE BETTER!

Thanks Patrick, you have a brilliant collection there as well!

Enjoy them like you always do!

Ciao!

Stephen

It was on many other Rolex models from the 1940s...I have seen many other watch brands with it...while I associate it with Panerai it certainly wasn't theirs alone...yes I love the history of the 249 but what is wrong with building on it and giving it a modern edge...just my $.02

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  "+1"

 

Cheers,

pplater.

But for me personally, really an awesome baby that's just waiting to come to papa!

Ciao

Stephen

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After 6ex of PAM 267, 12ex of PAM 349 ... LOL

Rare does not want to tell impreativement nice, 19000e for Titanium/ Minerva / Val fleurier/ Montblanc / Panerai ... LOLOL 

There is a long time that I does more attempt to understand the marketing policy of Panerai

Sorry but Panerai, Monerai, same figth IMO.

Best

Patrice