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F.P. Journe

For me it’s the Journe. Hands down.

 

I find the Lange, although a lovely watch and amazing movement, colder and most austere than the more artistic and avant-garde Journe. The Lange to me is more “formulaic” in its design; golden ratio, straight lugs, case sides straight up and thicker watch. The Journe on the other hand is more artistic in its design and hence more original and unique. The entire case and lug shape is very sensuous and has a sense of movement versus the more tuetonic Lange. Look at the moon phase design even; the Lange has two clear cut humps yet the Journe has these lovely graceful curves. Nothing is “sharp” about its design. Which is why it is so comfortable in the wrist.

I own two Lange watches and love them. I appreciate them for what they are. But between Lange and Journe I will go with a Journe every time. (Except maybe a Datograph and Zeitwerk. Those are hard to beat.)

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Mirror Image? Not quite.

 
By: Bob L. : February 16th, 2023-18:21
Two very nice watches that are similar in many respects—both feature an offset dial with the time, a separate subdial for the seconds display, a large date display, a multi-day power reserve indicator, and an offset moonphase display. And the dials are th...  

No watch brand nails the off-center dial look better than Lange.

 
By: Lankysudanese : February 16th, 2023-18:28
The Journe has a lot of unused space, IMHO. Thanks for sharing, and wear them in good health

Lange all day

 
By: CoolK : February 16th, 2023-18:30
More pop with the moonphase and you can see not a lot of empty dial space. The Journe seems like its lacking something (owing to the empty dial space)

The Journe is more whimsical but the Lange is so perfectly designed.

 
By: vitalsigns : February 16th, 2023-18:31
I prefer the Lange. Controversial opinion, but I would not consider the Journe a well-designed piece.

The Lange is much nicer and "arranged"

 
By: MilDiver : February 16th, 2023-19:04
And its moon display is way more proportional, However, you need to see them in reality, holding them I much prefer the case structure of the FPJ and its crown, Top view wise, in reality the Lange is less vivid compared with the FPJ and the visual gap clo... 

Interesting comparison, Bob. …because the reasons behind the two watches with the similar design are very different ….

 
By: ChristianDK : February 16th, 2023-21:30
So we look at bit deeper… The Octa was designed as a base movement (automatic) with the asymmetrical layout so that it could give space to integrate different complications in to the same movement and avoid stacking. As FP says. “I don’t make hamburgers.”...  

Yes, that’s probably the takeaway point here…

 
By: ChristianDK : February 16th, 2023-22:34
and depending on one’s taste, some Journe collectors would state that the Lune came out the least successful in the Octa family because of the use of space. I think Irl it’s not as evident as when thrown in your face on a screen. Of course some also frown...  
By: nitipatt : February 17th, 2023-08:29
I prefer the FPJ with points you mentioned. Thinking of joining the long waitlist as well. However, there seem to be more platinum ones in the wild

While there are some similarities in the dial layouts, these are really two completely different animals.

 
By: BigAppleBill : February 16th, 2023-21:34
Lange nails the Golden Ratio, which is very eye-pleasing from a technical perspective. Journe is more a blend of art and technical achievement from the perspective of a single artist. But a comparison of the two-dimensional dials is far different from act... 

Day/Night indicator?

 
By: roundel : February 16th, 2023-23:37
On the Lange, are you referring to the luminescent hands and dial markers? Fun comparo. I score them this way: Large date: FPJ - I like the single window, but the digits seem a bit misaligned here. Moon phase: ALS - The blue with gold moon is striking. Po... 

Day/night indicator

 
By: montecristo#2 : February 18th, 2023-20:25
Beneath the moon on the Lange is another spinning disk that revolves every 24 hours. In daylight it’s a bright blue sky, at night it’s a dark blue sky with stars.

Thank you!

 
By: roundel : February 21st, 2023-05:55
I did not know that and it is very interesting.

While I do prefer FPJ in general, in this case it‘s the ALS for me as well.

 
By: damianp : February 17th, 2023-07:45
The dial is much more balanced, I like the big date window on the Lange 1 much better and I can‘t really find anything that needs improvement on the Lange 1 moonphase. It‘s just a perfect implementation and so the Journe falls off compared to it while sti... 

For me it’s the Journe. Hands down.

 
By: Chicolini : February 19th, 2023-00:04
I find the Lange, although a lovely watch and amazing movement, colder and most austere than the more artistic and avant-garde Journe. The Lange to me is more “formulaic” in its design; golden ratio, straight lugs, case sides straight up and thicker watch...