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Excellent post Mach!
Having seen both the Chopard and Patek at W&W25 (but not the PF) I would be hard-pressed to pick between the 2 P’s, Patek and Parmigiani. Both are exceptional pieces with the Patek a bit more classical and the Parmigiani a bit more daring.
I was inclined to think I would prefer the Chopard from pre-W&W25 photos but when I saw it in person it left me flat. I’m not sure I can articulate a reason. There was just no heart palpitation for me.
So put me down for .5 Parmigiani and .5 Patek 😁
2025 Platinum Elegance: Patek, Chopard, and Parmigiani Compared . . .
I seldom dress up, and when I do, I usually reach for my Omega CK 859 or my Seiko Presage Blue Enamel SPB069—especially when I’m around clients. Lately, though, I’ve been seriously contemplating adding a true dress watch to my collection. Interestingly, i...
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 1 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 0 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 1
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV : 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 5
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P : 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 0 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 1
For me the PF
Either color fine. In the PP I’m not overly into the blacked out indices. For the chopard make the subdial only a seconds, no date. The PF I wouldn’t change anything. Hence the winner. Either dial color as well. Another mention is the zenith- beautiful pl...
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 0 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 2
Another spectacular platinum release this year, Larry!
Unfortunately, I still haven’t seen one in the flesh.😢 Otherwise, I would have included it in this comparison!🥂
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 1 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 2
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 2 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 2
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 2
I concur.
Personally, I like the Parmigiani, then the Patek, and the Chopard as per your question. If I could make one change, I would go with the salmon dial Chopard over this one - but I realize you're trying to keep to a platinum theme and the salmon dial Chopar...
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 3
Parmigiani first
I don't see the chopard as dressy. I think the pf is more visually interesting than the pp.
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P : 2 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 4
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 3 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 4
What I say is they ALL are Bangers! You can’t go wrong with any of those IMO.
If , I had to choose the Toric speaks to me the most.
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 3 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 5
Totally agree, Larry!😄
That’s the beauty of these 2025 platinum releases—each has something spectacular to offer. Heritage, technical mastery, or artistry—you really can’t go wrong with any of them.
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 5
* CORRECTION * Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 6
Wonderful post and wonderful platinum trio!
Thank you. I’ve had the chance to try on the PP and the LUC, but not the PF, unfortunately. Hopefully I’ll be able to see one in real life someday. However, I think I prefer older variants of each of these watches: PP 3718A, Quattro Mark I and 1st gen Tor...
All three are truly beautiful watches.
As much as I love the Parmigiani the Chopard is my favourite and I'm not even fond of the Patek. Marc
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 4 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 5
* CORRECTION * Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 4 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 6
Have not had any of them on my wrist so,
I might feel differently if I had - Chopard, Patek and not a big fan of this Parmigiani. In regard to the first two, for me, the Patek is very nice, but the Chopard wins by a pretty fair distance.
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 5 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 5
* CORRECTION * Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 5 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 6
I say I have ZERO QUIBBLES
with the Parmigiani Toric in platinum. I have the same as you and adore every little thing about it. Pure class. I am smitten with the gold dials as you are.
Running Tally of Favorites (you voted with your wallet):
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 3 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 6
* CORRECTION * Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 5 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 7
People want berserk for the Patek
in Geneva when it was released. I was so puzzled. It’s very plain and never spoke to me. That being said it’s a lovely watch.
Not surprised by your choice.
The Chopard without the subdial would look better for me..
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 7
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 4 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 8
The Patek is my choice of the 3...
...the dark hands against that dial color was genius. The movement just does not get me very exited though...I can't tell you why, but it just doesn't. Even though not quite as traditional, I think I might prefer a micro-rotor automatic. Heresy, I know : ...
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 8
Alright folks, calling it a night😴 Really balanced tally so far:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 8 Thank you to everyone who’s taken part—let’s see what the overnight votes bring!
Running Tally of Favorites (continued):
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 6 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 8
Excellent post Mach!
Having seen both the Chopard and Patek at W&W25 (but not the PF) I would be hard-pressed to pick between the 2 P’s, Patek and Parmigiani. Both are exceptional pieces with the Patek a bit more classical and the Parmigiani a bit more daring. I was inclined ...
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 6.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 8.5
Patek for me...
Understated elegence. Not so sure about the dial on the Chopard and the fluted bezel on Parmigiani.
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 8.5
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 9.5
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 10.5
Parmigiani for me
But I think the MSRP is really high. I'd wait until they hit the "secondary" market and save a boat load of money. I paid significantly less than MSRP for all of the Parmigiani stuff I have owned. The Patek with the black indices is very cool though. I th...
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 11.5
The PF In Platinum...
... Is very difficult to compete with. That time-only Patek is fantastic. The dial work on that Chopard is practically unparalleled. But the greenish/greyish dial on that Parmigani is sublime.
Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 12.5
Momentum, but still open race:
Latest tally—Parmigiani starting to build some momentum, but still a fun, balanced spread: • Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 12.5 Appreciate all the votes—let’s see where this heads...
While I find the Patek attractive (I’m surprised by my reaction to it) the Toric hands down.
Case and dial are exceptional.
Updated Running Tally of Favorites:
• Patek Calatrava 6196P: 7.5 • Chopard L.U.C Quattro IV: 6 • Parmigiani Toric Petite Seconds “Golden Hour”: 13.5 Looks like the Parmigiani is pulling ahead in this round!😄 Still, all three are incredible watches, and it’s amazing to see how opinions vary—...
