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Patek - all the way. Much nicer dial, nicer case and I also prefer the Patek movement.
Which one for you?
Which one would you choose? A. Lange & Söhne 1815 Chronograph Boutique Edition Pulsometer (30 pulsations) in white gold , ref. 414.026 with caliber L951.5 Patek Philippe Chronograph, ref. 5170J-001 in yellow gold with Pulsometer dial (15 pulsations) and c...
Besides the white gold and blue details on the dial....
I do prefer the Arabic numerals as well as all the the hands - hour, minutes, seconds and chrono on the ALS....
I fully understand this preference.
But I feel differently because of my taste for classic/vintage design.
I would have to go for ALS
YG doesn't work for me, WG/PT or RG does however, even if I yet have to do it.
If YG isn't you cup of tea, then there's not even a choice to make!
The ALS is stunning for sure, but I like the vintage charm of the PP, personally. Best, Emmanuel
Stunner indeed.
But I like the vintage charm of the PP, personally. That said, the movement alone would probably make me choose the ALS... Best, Emmanuel
The 1815 is certainly the best watch but I choose the Patek
For the fluidity of the lines
Not always true, but the Lange is the “warmer” watch here.
And so I’d go with the 1815. I think the Lange also suits my personal taste better here, it is an easier watch to transition to casual with.
I agree with everything you say!
The ALS is stunning indeed. But I really like the vintage charm of the PP, personally. So I would have a very hard time choosing, even if the ALS movement would probably win me over... Best, Emmanuel
Lange L951 is far superior in this case
But for the split I would have chosen the fabulous Patek 5370
Far superior? Maybe, but I personally like the vintage charm of the PP a lot.
That said, movement wise, the ALS is very appealing, no doubt about that. Best, Emmanuel
To be honest Lange makes boring dials and the absence of applied indices is also a solid drawback. Still the dial of this 1815 looks quite fresh.
1815 Chronograph in my opinion is one of the best Lange overall. It has finely decorated movement with stunning architecture and the watch is very wearable (not each Lange can be praised for it). If it had applied indices the watch would be 10/10. Patek i...
You have a point. Applied indexes would be very welcome.
The Lange movement is quite something, no doubt about that. Best, Emmanuel
For the movement, yes.
For the dial, I'm personally not so sure because I like the vintage vibe of the PP a lot... Best, Emmanuel
Right, more modern, less "dated".
I just like dated more. The more I think about it the more I think I would pick the 5170J.
This does indeed seem to be the prevailing sentiment.
But I personally like the vintage vibe of the 5170J a lot. That said the ALS movement is incredibly appealing, no doubt about that. Best, Emmanuel
I would probably choose left too because of the movement.
But the vintage charm of the PP is wonderful and I like it more than the design of the ALS. Best, Emmanuel
The more I think about it, the more obvious it becomes to me
that I would personally be happier with the vintage vibe of the PP, despite the beauty of the ALS movement. Best, Emmanuel
Tough indeed!
I would go for the Patek: so much more vintage charm for me! Best, Emmanuel
Aha! You’re absolutely right, as the caliber is 4Hz.
That said, I think Patek deliberately chooses to ignore this fact. I don’t think it’s a mistake at all: they know what they do and decide that the 5 increment is nicer looking or something like that. Best, Emmanuel
Same for me, “ultimately” as you say,
that is despite the appeal of the ALS movement. Best, Emmanuel
In this case, the ALS because of, as others have indicated, the more appealing dial and the arabic numerals.
But if given the choice, I would prefer a later iteration of the 5170 over both of these, for example the 5170R or 5170G-010 (both with arabics and those gorgeous leaf hands). Cheers, Pieter
Interesting point of view. Thanks for sharing.
I happen to love the 5170J because of its unique vintage vibe and aesthetic, but I understand the preference for other more contemporary variants. Best, Emmanuel
Interesting. Because of the cut numerals (3 and 9), I wouldn't have said 'cleaner',
but I definitely understand why one can prefer the ALS. I would choose the PP, though, because of my taste for vintage aesthetic and vibe. Best, Emmanuel
Of course, yes, but not for everyone! ;-)
I would, for instance, be happier with the PP, even if the movement of the ALS is superior. But of course I fully understand your preference, which probably makes more sense. Best, Emmanuel
You know
I understand that PP will always be “the watch”, but with the years my choice has changed; I also understand your point of view very well. All the best.
I think it's not so much about Patek for me: it's more about the vintage vibe of the 5170J (at least I think that's what counts for me).
Thanks for your kind reply! All the best to you too.
Frank;ly, I'd almost always go with ALS over PP, all else being generally equivalent.
I generally prefer ALS aesthetics and I find the ALS movements to be more interesting and interestingly finished. I'm also put off by PP's general marketing approach and some of the odious things that the latest scion of the Stern family has said to the p...
Yes, I understand your feelings and your preference for ALS.
It makes a lot of sense. But I personally respond to the vintage aesthetic of this 5170J a little more than to the design of the ALS (even if the movement is fantastic, of course). Best, Emmanuel
I definitely understand this preference, even if it isn't mine.
This ALS is a stunner in its own way. Best, Emmanuel
Yes, I fully understand this hierarchy.
For me, the VC and the PP have great appeal front and back, whereas the ALS is much more attractive from the back than from the front. Just my perception of things, of course. Best, Emmanuel
I feel the same way, even if I have to admit that the ALS movement is very impressive and quite special.
But the Patek movement is less in "showing off" mode (not the right words, but something like that).
I understand this preference: it's a great watch.
The PP just sings to me more. But it's very personal. Best, Emmanuel
Both are top of the game.
If I have to choose one, it would be the Lange. Superlative from the front and back.