YOu're right! Everything is relative! But let's look at it this way, today a time only, manual wind, no date Patek Calatrava in gold is nearly 30,000 CHF. If you look from that standard, then these really pricy independents do offer a lot of value at 50,000 CHF. But yes, the illusion has to become true. And I adore Wall Street! It's Oliver Stone's masterpiece!