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Dear Nico
Thank you. For your quick overview of the new collection. There are some pieces rhat look very promising. The PT MUT has a very nice dial, in the pics ive seen, at least. The new gyro lll is to die for. WOW. It seems the finish of the case and and dials have a new level of finish. Also the design signature seems a little different but improved in these two pieces. Did JLC hire a new designer?
The collection overall, is not the best release in JLC history. Especially the pieces for us mortals. But when I see the overall output from all the brands, in Geneva, this year, JlC seem ti (still) be performing above average.
My inital impressions, but I really look forward to reading your in depth analysis and seeing your pictures.
All the best to you and again, a big thank you
Christian
JLC SIHH 2013: The new collection.
Of course we'll come back to each of these novelties, but I know your legendary impatience, so, in " avant premire " here are the novelties, this year, from the Grande Maison. Basically, JLC focused on three lines, three families: The Master Control, the...
Thanks Nicolas
I love several of these--astounding!! But the one I would like to own and wear is the Cermet Deep Sea... from the pics I have seen on a few forums, this is a super sport watch with immense JLC character. Love the cross cut pushers, black case, no 'automat...
What I see is that JLC worked on a wide offer to please to most of the watch fans.
If you love sporty watches, the new Black Deep Sea Chrono may well be for you. The Dressy watch fans will certainly appreciate and fall for the MUT Jubilé. The Gyro III is for those who love complicated watches, as well as the Duometre UTT, which needs a ...
Thanks Nico!...
Three questions: 1. Do you have a photo of the verso face of the new Ultra-thin Reverso? 2. What is the thickness of the 39mm MUT? 3. Where is the party tonight? Cheers, pplater.
Aaah, Pplater....
1/ Yes. 2/ 4, 05 mm. 3/ In my plane. I had to come back home and to reality yesterday night, since I had to plead early in the morning. ;) Best, Nicolas
Master ultra thin perpetual
Hi Nicolas The iPad catalog shows a master ultra thin perpetual in RG. Isit in steel also? Thanks, Joe
Great Post
Thanks Nicolas. Love the MGT Tourbillon Cylindrique Quantieme Perpetuel. Tres cool. -Scott
I would have fell for it if only it was manual....
BUT there are some interesting features I will explain in the detail a bit later. Best, Nicolas
Thanks to you Nicolas, but not to JLC
Duometre is really not my cup of tea. They decided to touch the master control tourbillon, which needed serious facelift, and what do they do? Just redesign the cage and the rotor. How about a less chunky bulky case... Like all fine tunes versions had? Ho...
" 58 " is the digital instantaneous minutes! ;)
I for one like the grained dials, so I am happy to see them, but colors and tastes are far from being universal... ;) Best, Nicolas
indeed, i saw live pics shot in SIHH
... that one looks great! As for the digital minutes, that's a heritage from the extreme compressor! Nicolas, hit us with some price. 380k euro for this one??
Even worse...
450 K euros. Fricks... Fricks... Are you still alive??? ;) Best, Boum Badaboum Vlad.
Alive and kicking! We are not going to argue over 100k...
... usd :)) hehehe... Yes, we can smile about it, doesn't matter much anyway.
Eeeeeerrr... even you are getting lost in those high figures :)
450k - 380k =70k euro 70k euro = 100k usd more or less Le compte est bon!
Full specs on MUT...
New Cal 849/1. 21,600 V/h. 123 parts. Thickness of movement: 1.85mm. Diameter of movement: 20.80mm. Diameter of case: 39mm. Thickness of watch: 4.05mm. Power reserve: 35 hours. WR to 5 Bar. Available only in Pt.; solid case back. Cheers, pplater.
Thanks!
Of course I was hoping for something new, but the 849 is a very fine movement for an ultrathin. Thanks for the info! _john
Have there been any modifications made to the 849 movement for this release?
I saw some pictures that suggested that the 849/1 was a new version of the 849.
No! But there was an older version of the calibre mistakenly placed in a window,
That may be why! Best Dje
Thanks Nicolas
The MUT is a beauty and the "rendez-vous" is such a nice and interesting watch watch, with its presentation, title and complication. (too bad diamonds are there, as usual on lady's watch)
Fun, no. too many things to do in such a short time, this year.
But some interesting moments, for sure! Best, Andy. Nicolas
The MUT is interesting
Pity it is not transparent caseback (as in the VC 1955). Wondering will there be possibly of boutique edition for the Jubilee pieces, similar to the 80th Anniversary of Reverso. Perhaps you can kindly help us probe a bit ;p Thanks Melvin
There will not be Boutique Editions of the Jubilé Collection, AFAIK.
And I do hope they won't do that. It would not be fair for those who want to get one or several pieces of the Jubilé collection! Best, Nicolas
JlC killed it again this year!!!Knock out!
Off to SIHH in a few hours,a lot to say but will report my feelings when back. Lots of hits,new GYro3,ultrathin duo,triple calendar,UTT.....all winners. I think that you should add that there is a 4th family: Duometre ,with the UTT (even if presented befo...
The verso side of the Blue is... White. ;)
Have fun, there, and come back with a lot of ammunitions for our future debates. ;) Best, Nicolas
Happy. Very happy :D
Thank you so much for these premier real life shots of the watches. You know very well my pick of the litter. Awesome! Ruckdee
Very cool Master Grande Tradition.
Would like to see a wrist shot. Thanks Nicolas JerryW
Merci Nicolas, very nice review, unfortunately I cannot...
see the new MUT 39mm for some reason the picture does not open???!!!! I really like the Duo Metre UTT I wish I could see it in the flesh as on the picture the blue looks a bit wishy washy:) anyhow the layout works well for my taste. Not so sure about the ...
Thank you Mo, much appreciated, then it makes it...
very innovative and even more interesting. Cheers, Francois
Well, my friend, don't forget that the flash gives some tricky outcomes, sometimes.
Here is a more faithful picture of the UTT in the " daylight ". Best, Françao. ;) Nicolas ...
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Dear Nico Thank you. For your quick overview of the new collection. There are some pieces rhat look very promising. The PT MUT has a very nice dial, in the pics ive seen, at least. The new gyro lll is to die for. WOW. It seems the finish of the case and a...
Two pieces that I instantly liked
1) The Tourbillon Cylindrique Quantieme Perpetuel looks absolutey stunning but unfortunately not within my pay scale :( 2) The Master Calendar which I really like and would love to see in the flesh. Thanks Nicolas for the prompt photos. :)
I am very happy with the " new " Master Calendar, Topcat.
I will explain why soon. but yes, this is a very elegant piece. Best! Nicolas
All in all, the Jubilé collection is quite strong, I think.
As for the other products, one strong point is that JLC worked a lot on some small details, which are important. One example: The cases. The MGT for example has a totally new case which is close to the Duometre, which, I think, is a compliment. More to co...
Francois, order it now...
...you will NOT be disappointed!!! Sorry we missed in CH; hope to catch up soon. Cheers, pplater.
Hi Pplater, yes it is tempting but I have other pieces....
in my mind or on hold.."petit a petit l'oiseau fait son nid":):) Looking forward to see you back Down Under. The trip was great apart from a bloody sciatica which I contracted a week before going north... Cheers, Francois
Fantastic offerings from JLC and thank you
Many thanks for the (usual) terrific reporting on all things JLC. The new offerings are, as usual, fantastic. Truly a case of the "watchmaker's watchmaker" flexing its muscles and showcasing its talents. No doubt I'll appreciate each piece more as I take ...
We are pureness of patience!
Thanks for this overview Nicolas, it helps waiting ;) - I like the MGT Tourbillon and its dial layout, more than one of the Gyros which dial's "step" wasn't looking a nice as this one. I like all the indexes and I special appreciate this 12 o'clock sub-di...
The 2013 Collection will travel all over the world, and, of course, in Paris.
So, yes, you will have the opportunity to see these watches, quite soon, I think. As for the Duometre UTT, that is a common target of us, my friend. I too, am thinking ( storglmy thinking, I must say ) about it. Best, Nicolas
Stunning
It is amazing each year again what the Manufacture is able to do within that time. Especially the Gyrotourbillon 3 looks fantastic at first glance. But even the new Rendez Vous is not bad at all. Looking forward to pearn more about the novelties :-) Best,...
Everybody will find his watch, in my opinion.
Yes, I had the opportunity to take some amazing shots of the Rndez Vous Celestial, the dial is ... Envouting! From the simplest to the most complicated, there is a watch for everybody, in this collection. Best, Nicolas
My favorite is the Triple Date..
I wonder if it will be available with a black dial? Thanks for the pics! -MW
Thank you Nicolas...
...for exposing us to an amazingly eclectic group of watches. Of course the one that is singing to me an aria of desire is the Deep Sea Chronograph in ceramic. The only thing I worry about is the size at 44mm, perhaps a bit too large. It is a watch that I...
I heard many positive feedbacks in the Salon about this Deep Sea Black.
From very different people! When I was told that this was a 44 mm case, I coudn't beleive it, and had to try it. It wears like a 42 mm watch. A lot has to be said on this Deep Sea Chrono. Stay tuned! Best, Nicolas
Thank you
Dear Nicolas, Thank you for the pictures and great report. I can't wait to read your detailed analysis of the collection and if possible, 'on the wrist pictures'. A questions to you and the community: I tried to find out more about the caliber of the MUT ...
MUT 41mm
Thank you for the swift response. The different caliber numbers through me off. The 896 vs. 898C Anyways, can't wait for more pictures.
Thanks Nicolas for
the nice report.....yet to see MUT in flesh and see will it be my very first JLC or not. Cheers,
Thank you Nicholas for your post
Any pricing info yet for the ultra thin reverso bleu and duoface? Thank you in advance.
Nice to see the return of the Master Moon, but...
...why the gaping hole between the day and month windows? I have to scan the whole dial for date info! I thought the earlier execution was less scattered. Best, Ken in NYC
That was already the case on the 37 mm version, Ken.
I didn't fin it disturbing, though. Will have to re check it. Best, Nicolas
I used to be able to picture JLC in my mind
The last 5 years or so they have released so many models, in so many different areas, I can't do that anymore. This isn't a bad thing, but just my feeling.
It was often the case, in a distant past...
A past where JLC was wealthy. Oppposed to a Past when the Quartz threatened horology, and not only JLC, by the way. Can you keep track of all the Memovoxes or Reversos which were produced ? I can't. Same for models like the Futurematics, or Powermatic, or...
Thanks for the wrap-up Nicolas
Two JLC watches are amongst my SIHH selection: the Master Calendar for its very classic style and the Ultra-Thin Duoface. They will be blockbusters for JLC I think. Fx
Master Calendar and Reverso UT Duoface are great, but I think the ...
MUT 39 Jubilé will be the first, in terms of popularity. We'll soon see! Thanks for your input, Fx. Nicolas.
wow, fantastic collection again this year...
... among them, the Gyro III and MUT 39mm caught my attention most... hope to see them and try them here soon. stefan
yes travel all over the world as usual...
... was told by the boutique manager yesterday, the SIHH 2013 launch will be on 2nd week of March. i have marked my diary already, just can't wait it any longer! stefan
One comment on the new Duo...
I LOVE the front, 1930's style face. However, the back side has the "Night/Day" printing, which really bugs me, since they should be "AM/PM," due to the positioning of the 24-hour hand running from 24-to-12 on the left side and 12-to-24 on the right side....
I think I see Dean's point
I think Dean has a good point. Dean, I hope you don't mind me taking the liberty to expand. The sub-dial on the back has one hand, and the dial shows 12 at the top and 24 at the bottom. Presumably the hand rotates once in 24 hours - 24 indicating midnight...
Still don"t get it.
Here is a picture of the dial: Where do you see a hand on the sub dial of the globe? Where do you see the words Day and Night? Best, Nicolas ...
I think Dean is referring to...
...the Reverso UltraThin Duoface. Sorry, but I haven't worked out how to attach a picture.
I'm quite sure your explanation is consistent with the original message.
And I agree how PM/AM would be more appropriate than Night/Day now. Very good point. Ruckdee
+1. When I see Duo, I always think DuoMETRE. If this is not obsession...
I don't know what is obsession, then. ;) Best, Nicolas.