Dr No
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The term 'chronometer' means 'time measure'. How does a Constellation owner measure time accurately against a reference . . .
. . . without a seconds hand?
My sense is that a chronometer without a seconds hand is not technically an oxymoron but is functionally.
Realistically,
Art
The new Omega Constellation Observatory collection
Here's a pictorial overview of the newly released Omega Observatory Collection . Case dimensions: 39,4 x 12.23 x 47.2 mm Dial : pie-pan dial with 8 stamped grooves on opaline dodecagonal facets (except black model in polished ceramic). Faceted and polishe...
2 entierly different watches! Impossible to compare and decide upon. IMPOSSIBLE!
I think you need both… 🚀😅🤩
Thank you for your nice post, Emmanuel!
I like the watch a lot, though some versions more than others. It is interesting to see a certified chronometer without a seconds hand, you do not see that very often.
I personally approve this choice: the watch is even better without a seconds hand for me.
And they should have made these watches manual winding instead of automatic: the thickness shouldn't be above 12 mm with only two hands, really. Just my opinion, of course.
My pleasure! I like the absence of seconds hand and I think
they've made a good job except for the thickness. A two hander should be below 10 mm (and manual winding for me). Best, Emmanuel
Aha, yes understand your reaction.
But let's be fair, they've redesigned the Planet Ocean recently, haven't they? Best, Emmanuel
Oh I like it
I also like the range of metal and dial variations--they all look worthwhile! Obviously I'm a bit concerned about the size, but I'm eager to try one on. If they don't wear too big I'm a pretty likely buyer.
Yes, the size and the thickness for me.
With only two hands, it should be below 10 mm, imo (and preferably manual winding for me). Best, Emmanuel
Yes, a lot to like, except the thickness, maybe.
Why above 12 mm with only two hands? And why automatic instead of manual winding (just my preference of course, I know the market wants automatic)? Best, Emmanuel
Good questions, quattro.
A manual winding version with the movement found in the CK 859 (also a 39mm watch) might have been nice. These decisions obviously above my pay grade... ;-)
Given its Omega
My feeling is you wait 4-5 years and buy it in the secondary market for 40% cheaper.
The size should be 36-37 mm and thickness below 11 mm.
I assume this will replace the globemaster. The dial is very similar especially the star. The silver dial with rose gold looks a bit weird...I think it will look better had they use yellow gold hands and markers. And the price...oh my...10K for two hander...
I think I agree with you on almost all counts.
Just not sure about the idea of yellow gold hands and markers. Best, Emmanuel
Totally agree size-wise! This watch does not need to be over 38mm. And if it does, the lug size supposed to be 20mm insteadof 19mm.
Thickness of this type of watch over 12mm is actually a no-go!
Yes, it's an interesting release!
Hopefully, we'll be able to see them soon in the Omega boutiques. Best, Emmanuel
Want to see this in real.
Looks very good in the photos. Some versions I like more than others. Unfortunately it is a bit on the large side and definitely to thick. Would prefer it with manual winding. The pricing is - especially in precious metal - is ambitious.
WHOA!!!!
What have I been saying? OMEGA needs to rework the Constellation with more bling and excitement. Well, I’ve got my wish. These are all stunning. What a great job. The real question is: how 💸💸💸 upset is my wife going to be with me?
A chronometer without a seconds hand is like a Porsche 911S . . .
. . . with an automatic transmission. 😐 Thanks very much for posting the new Constellations, Emmanuel. The melange of hallmarks - dogleg lugs, spear markers, stepped pie-pan dials - works. The absence of running seconds, though, is unfathomable. 🤔
I personally approve the absence of running seconds, but I'm far less knowledgeable than you are
and I'm aware that my feeling might be heretic. I'm personally more bothered by the thickness (12.2 mm for a two hander?), which is partly due to the choice of an automatic movement, which I regret: I would have preferred by far a manual winding one. My L...
Not sure if I agree! If a Ferrari has 800HP and we all know, you cannot really use it on normal roads, it still is desirable because of that!
You know you have it! And here it is the same: it‘s even better than a COSC Chronometer, but still has only 2 hands - because it simply looks MUCH better and more retained and understated like this! You cannot see the accuracy immediately. (Though with pr...
The term 'chronometer' means 'time measure'. How does a Constellation owner measure time accurately against a reference . . .
. . . without a seconds hand? My sense is that a chronometer without a seconds hand is not technically an oxymoron but is functionally. Realistically, Art
I understand that too.
What matters to me is that the movement is tested and certified. But I get it of course.
Patience
You just have to measure the deviation over longer periods, minutes per month rather than seconds per day? I actually don't mind, it's kind of a "if you know you know" thing - after all, the ultimate luxury is to be able to have confidence that all your s...
In matters of taste or opinion, there are . . .
. . . no rules. I understand acceptance of (or indifference to) two-handed chronometers . . . I simply demur. Cordially, Art
There are times when I wish I weren't . . .
. . . such a purist. This is one of them.
Finally Omega is heading in the right direction!!!
Now add the seconds hand and I’m in
Who needs a seconds hand, here? It's so much cleaner without it, imo!
Just my feeling of course, and I fully understand yours. Best, Emmanuel
Never liked sterile dials, I like seeing the passing of time.
Same goes for Tourbillons, I don’t oppose them in the back but prefer to see them in the front. There is something calming and melancholic about the passage of time…
I understand how you feel. I don't personally need to see a seconds hand moving,
but I understand why some, like you, dislike sterile dials. It's just a matter of personal taste and preference!
Although not a huge fan of 2 handers...
These are absolutely stunning for a classically themed dress watch! Omega is still capable of great things when they really put their heart rather than budget mind to it.
I also think they've a good job, here.
(And I personally don't mind 2 handers!) Best, Emmanuel
I agree, the thickness is disappointing here,
especially for a two hander. I also think they should've opted for a manual winding movement. Best, Emmanuel
Omega is consistent with its past in that regard as all the vintage Constellation movements . . .
. . . were chronometer-rated automatics. A manual-wind movement would be a departure from tradition.
No problem! I understand your feeling. Perhaps it wasn't his best day, as
they are doing a pretty good work otherwise at Fratello. Best, Emmanuel
