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“Bamboo” bracelet: yes or no ?
This yellow gold Patek Philippe ref. 3821/1 features a bracelet crafted by Jean-Pierre Ecoffey.
The links are sculpted into repeating “bamboo” bars.
The case measures 32 mm and the watch is powered by calibre 177.
My feelings are mixed: some part of me finds this timepiece exquisite, the other part finds it extravagant.
What about you: yes or no ?
Best, Emmanuel
Jean-Pierre Ecoffey's signature: an “E” encircling “JP”.
credit: discreet peacock & @handsanddials (photo of the movement only)
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“Bamboo” bracelet: yes or no ?
This yellow gold Patek Philippe ref. 3821/1 features a bracelet crafted by Jean-Pierre Ecoffey . The links are sculpted into repeating “ bamboo ” bars. The case measures 32 mm and the watch is powered by calibre 177 . My feelings are mixed : some part of ...
Yes, I guess so. My feelings are really mixed.
Funnily, Silvio Berlusconi chose this ref. for a 30 pieces LE celebrating his Fininvest Group! ...
It is a known fact
The bigger the watch, the smaller the xxxx and vice-versa. Joke aside 32 is a bit on the smaller side but it does look nice on you.
This is not on me: the photos are from Discreet Peacock.
32 mm is a bit small indeed, but for such a bracelet watch, it might be a good thing: larger would probably be very loud. Best, Emmanuel
I agree regarding versatility,
but I struggle to know if I relly like it and would wear it. Best, Emmanuel
True, very unique and nice.
But I'm not completely sure I fully like it and would wear it. I think I prefer the 5738/1R-001. Best, Emmanuel ...
I'm not sure I could pull off such a formal watch, not pay for it...
...but this is really intriguing...
It's a watch I didn't expect to like as much as I did.
The bracelet is simply fantastic. And the purity of the Ellipse is simply wonderful. The strap variant is very nice too.
I agree with you, it works.
But I'm not sure I fully like it. I think I prefer the 5738/1R-001. Best, Emmanuel ...
Watch yes - bracelet less sure
I really like the watch “head”, from the numerals to the hands, aged dial - very nice. The size is in smaller Sie but for something that is obviously vintage, also ok. The bracelet for me didn’t age so well - I love many vintage bracelets, be it the older...
I think I agree with everything you say.
Reason why I think I still prefer the 5738/1R-001. Thanks for your comment. Best, Emmanuel ...
It has to be a YES for me ! Definitely a tad small, but with the gold bracelet it has ideal proportions. Imagine the same in 37 or 38mm, with the gold bracelet it would feel "too much".
This one is perfect, versatile dress watch that can definitely be worn with casual outfit (like in the pictures). Lastly, even though the shape looks a bit out of fashion, I love it (including the bracelet), and bear in mind that fashion is cyclical, I am...
I completely agree with you that the size is good, though small, given the bracelet.
I also find this watch attractive and like the fact that it's rare and somehow outdated. But I think I still prefer the 5738/1R-001. Best, Emmanuel ...
Next time I pay a visit to the PP Salon,
I'll try on the 5738 in platinum and in rose gold with leather strap. I think I would like this reference even more if it was hand-wound, like the 3821...
I feel so too, but my feelings are mixed and
I think I still prefer the 5738/1R-001. Best, Emmanuel ...
Same for me.
I have to study deeper, because ideally I would like it to be hand wound, but some of the ref. with cal. 240 are great nonetheless...
For me, this is one of those watches
that is easy to admire due to its craftsmanship and design, but difficult to imagine wearing on a regular basis. It’s a thing of beauty, it’s just not a thing that would be beautiful on me.
Yes, I perfectly understand your feeling.
And I too am very conflicted. I just remember how much I liked truing on the 5738/1R-001... Best, Emmanuel ...
Always a conversation piece
Beautiful, very unusual bracelet. Looks stylish with your oxford shirt, buckskin jacket, and jeans,
Yes, the photos are very good looking,
but they're not mine! They were made by Discreet Peacock! Anyway, I think I still like the 5738/1R-001 better. Best, Emmanuel ...
yes with bracelet- and a modern pp version ref 7200
34.6 mm diameter with cal 240 ...
Yes, the 7200 is definitely a beautiful reference!
Best, Emmanuel credit: @jacques.arc.time ...
In this case, I prefer my 5026j from 1994
also with Cal 240PS, size 33,5 but much more presence on the wrist ...
Oh, yes, wonderful!
Thanks for sharing. Such a beautiful timepiece. I like it better too. Best, Emmanuel
An overlooked reference that is a bit too small for me...
...but would be fantastic for a smaller wrist...
The dial, hands, etc. is killer : )
...not so sure about the bracelet, even though I admire the workmanship...
IRL I quickly imagine that bracelet acquiring a lot of crud quickly
I know auction houses would likely call that "patina" but it wouldn't be for me
I certainly understand this reaction.
I really have mixed feelings myself. The 5738/1R-001 is a watch I wasn't expecting to like as much as I did, so, now, I tend to look a the watches belonging to the same genre wondering if I would like them too on my wrist. Best, Emmanuel ...
Not for everyday wear
but to sip Negronis on the Amalfi coast during a cool autumn evening ... why not! the lovely lady next to you might have an eye to borrow it from you though, so be careful
For me it is not gold enough…
I much prefer the solid braided pattern of other “geezer” type watches. Perhaps this one would be comfier to wear in the heat though with more airflow through the bracelet. I’ve yet to take the plunge on a solid gold bracelet though so it’s just theoretic...
It's theoretical for me too and I see what you mean by "not gold enough".
The 5738/1R-001 is definitely more gold and probably much more attractive. Best, Emmanuel ...
I don't like how the bracelet
is welded to the case. I would have preferred it to be removable with standard lugs which could also fit a strap. Design is rather nice.
I see you point,
but it's still a very original design element, imo. However, it doesn't change the fact that my feelings about this watch are very mixed. Best, Emmanuel